AnImA8 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Librarians and GMs can roll for hammerhand :/ but the BRB says that blessings by the same name don't stack, only different blessing that give the same benefit do. That sucks if you roll 'Hammerhand' on someone taking Sanctic powers. Guess I'll be going Telepathy or Divination on my Librarian then. There's something to be said for not going Sanctic on our primary psykers anyway. If we want Hammerhand, Sanctuary, or Banishment then we already got it aplenty. And not much else is THAT good in Sanctic anyway. Might as well focus into pretty much any of our other disciplines. I'm down for pretty much any of the other psychic powers we have at our disposal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3704431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt051 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Telepathy and divination are your best bet most of the time, it would seem Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3704636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 could you use a psychic hood to DtW on an enemy unit within 12"? It doesn't say freindly just a unit in 12"Deny The Witch has no modifiers, so using a psychic hood wouldn't gain any bonuses against enemy blessings. All Grey Knights have The Aegis so we should always be rerolling Deny rolls of 1 regardless of where the enemy's blessing was manifested. If a psychic shooting attack hit a GK unit then sure, the psychic hood would be used to roll for DtW as though it was the libby who got hit, which is usually a 4+ unless the enemy psyker's PML is higher than the libby's, in which case 5+. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3704738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Deny The Witch has no modifiers, so using a psychic hood wouldn't gain any bonuses against enemy blessings. All Grey Knights have The Aegis so we should always be rerolling Deny rolls of 1 regardless of where the enemy's blessing was manifested. If a psychic shooting attack hit a GK unit then sure, the psychic hood would be used to roll for DtW as though it was the libby who got hit, which is usually a 4+ unless the enemy psyker's PML is higher than the libby's, in which case 5+. Does Aegis trigger for denying blessings and conjurations? I thought it would only trigger if you get targeted/in the AOE of the power Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3704782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berle Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 The FAQ says reroll 1`s when making Deny the witch tests. Doesnt say anywhere that it only works when targeted :) But it could use another FAQ to make the rule clearer. Thats GW for ya Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3704907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 To make a Deny the Witch test, first select one of your units that was a target of the enemy’s psychic power.... If none of your units were the target of the enemy’s psychic power (the power in question might have been a blessing, a conjuration, or some other power that only affects the Psyker’s own troops) you can still attempt to Deny the Witch. To do so, follow the same process, but apply no modifiers to your dice rollsIf you follow the same process you need to pick a unit. If you cant pick a unit because none were the target of the psychic power then you cant deny blessings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3705039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 No Quozzo. It's saying you pick a unit to attempt to DtW with no modifiers, just them trying to intercede the warp energies Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3705114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 That was the point I was trying to make. The first step in denying is to pick a unit. If you pick, say, a dreadnought then their Reinforced Aegis allows all failed DtW rerolls. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3705120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I think GW will FAQ it to be 'no bonuses for you'. Because they've currently got an obsession with witchfire and maledictions, even though blessing and conjurations are still the most OP psychic powers in the game. (shrug) I'm already playing it that way. Spell Familiar for CSM needs a nerf though, it's broken as hell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3705669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreHunter Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 yes but a pshychic hood lets your librarian act as the target for a DtW for "an" unit within 12". So could you DtW with a librarian against a blessing targeting an enemy unit within 12" of him? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3705683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 yes but a pshychic hood lets your librarian act as the target for a DtW for "an" unit within 12". So could you DtW with a librarian against a blessing targeting an enemy unit within 12" of him? No, because the rules for psychic hoods state that you're replacing the units attempt to Deny (which obviously enemy units wouldn't do) with the Librarians superior attempt. It's strictly for defending friendly units against offensive powers like witchfire and malediction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3705695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 So, here is a copy of the email that I sent in to the rules team. If we identify something else, I'd be happy to follow-up: Dear sir or madam, Firstly, I would like to thank the team for quickly providing updated documents upon release of the new edition of the game. I am writing, however, to direct your attention to some lingering issues/questions within the Errata/Amendments/FAQ document associated with the Grey Knights codex (which can be accessed at here: http://www.blacklibrary.com/Downloads/Product/PDF/Warhammer-40k/7th-faq/Grey_Knights_v1.0_May14.pdf). The list of issues follows: 1. A Grey Knights unit of ten-men may opt to break down into two five-man units, called combat squads, when the unit is deployed (page 21). Do the two combat squads, which are now treated as separate units for all game purposes from that point on, now each generate a Warp Charge? 2. When a Grey Knight Grand Master nominates units with Unyielding Anvil, as a choice for his Grand Strategy special rule, the nominated units can claim objectives as if they were Troops (page 22). Does this mean that those units benefit from the Objective Secured rule, when used in a Battle-forged army list? 3. The current version of the Grey Knight Errata/Amendments/FAQ has amended The Aegis rule (page 21) to the following: 'The Aegis: a unit that contains at least one model with this special rule re-rolls results of 1 when making Deny the Witch tests,' and Reinforced Aegis (page 35) has been amended to: 'Reinforced Aegis: this unit can re-roll any failed Deny the Witch roll." Do the Aegis and/or Reinforced Aegis special rules allow you to use these re-rolls against any/all adversary attempts to cast Psychic Powers (i.e. including opponent Blessings and Conjurations), or only adversary attempts to cast Psychic Powers that actually target the unit with the Aegis or Reinforced Aegis special rule? 4. Justicar Anval Thawn is an upgrade character for a unit of Grey Knight Terminators (pages 43 and 91), who's I Shall Not Yield rule may cause him to be returned to the game in subsequent turns after having been removed as a casualty; he is treated as a separate unit from his original squad from this point on. If his original squad had been upgraded to having Psybolt Ammunition at the beginning of the game, will Justicar Thawn continue to benefit from this upgrade when he 'respawns'? Thank you in advance for your attention to these questions, Best regards, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3708013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 TY Val! Edit: Would it be wishlisting to mention the Brotherhood Champion's option for Digital Weapons? He naturally gets a reroll, so Digital Weapons cannot do anything. They are, at best, a wasted option. And at worse, a trap for new players who don't catch the can't reroll a reroll. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3708032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Good choices for questions. Looking forward to seeing the response. They are, at best, a wasted option. And at worse, a trap for new players who don't catch the can't reroll a reroll. Brotherhood Champions are now a trap choice themselves. 'Heroic Sacrifice' was the last thing they had over any other choice, now that its gone they're literally pointless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3708046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Bro-Champs are 100pt Hammerhand caddies, and as they are ICs, they can bring Hammerhand and Banishment to any attached unit. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3708145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Why bother, when techmarines are cheaper and can grab 'nades as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3708159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 A techmarine leading a crusader squad is in no way any narrative I'm willing to forge! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3708379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile Noctis Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Techmarine and Rads rolling around with Purifiers/ Terminators? I like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3708415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Techmarine and Rads rolling around with Purifiers/ Terminators? Nah take an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor if you wanna do that, he's cheaper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291486-gk-post-7th-faq-is-live/page/4/#findComment-3709110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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