Reede Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 The only exception I can think of are Fenrisian wolves, since, you know, they never score. They could technically still have the rule, but since they can't score to begin with, it would be moot, haha. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291487-new-faq/page/5/#findComment-3701003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiOfRuss Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I hate painting silver though. Would be a struggle to forge the narrative for an alliance between wolves ands grey knights, too. Hehe Isn't there precedent in the fluff for them fighting together? Wasn't there a bunch of Grey Knights at the first battle for Armageddon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291487-new-faq/page/5/#findComment-3701054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Man, grey knights look kinda OP now, actually. Their storm ravens can take paybolt ammunition and *SANCTUARY*. ..OH. targets the pskyer. Damn, that's a lot less awesome. Still, they do generate an extra warp charge point as they're a psyker (ml1). The troops choices get hammer hand, which is now str +2. You might think you're worse off in 7th because it's harder to pass the test, but think about it this way - you only need to cast the power on some of your units each turn. Much of the time, half your units won't be in close combat, and they can lend their dice to the units that are. How does combat squads interact with brotherhood of psykers? Combat Squad makes them two separate units, so that's one more unit granting another Warp Charge point. Grey knights librarians are a bargain for what they can do, also.At 150 points to start they're actually a bit more expensive than we'd like - better off sticking with Coteaz, and going with a Grand Master for a second HQ if you need one. He does so, so, much more for the army. Inquisitors are a bargain, as always. Indeed. And... grey knights have various anti psychic rules that actually still do something in 7th, unlike space wolves. True I hate painting silver though. Would be a struggle to forge the narrative for an alliance between wolves ands grey knights, too. Hehe You don't have to paint them silver - a nice dark grey (charcoal) also works well. No problem forging an alliance if the protection of the Imperium is at stake. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291487-new-faq/page/5/#findComment-3701066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 The only exception I can think of are Fenrisian wolves, since, you know, they never score. if they dont, how come there are so many on Fenris? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291487-new-faq/page/5/#findComment-3701094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I hate painting silver though. Would be a struggle to forge the narrative for an alliance between wolves ands grey knights, too. Hehe Isn't there precedent in the fluff for them fighting together? Wasn't there a bunch of Grey Knights at the first battle for Armageddon? Yeah, but I think the fallout from the aftermath of that war is what might make future interactions, a bit on the volatile side... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291487-new-faq/page/5/#findComment-3701151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I hate painting silver though. Would be a struggle to forge the narrative for an alliance between wolves ands grey knights, too. Hehe Isn't there precedent in the fluff for them fighting together? Wasn't there a bunch of Grey Knights at the first battle for Armageddon? Yeah, but I think the fallout from the aftermath of that war is what might make future interactions, a bit on the volatile side... Eh, the younger blood wasn't there (and probably wasn't told the specifics), and even if members who were there or were told the full story are present are on one or both sides, the two factions can probably be counted on to bury old grudges when imperial lives are at stake, and the Knights don't generally hang around long enough for conflict to arise after the fact. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291487-new-faq/page/5/#findComment-3701167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 librarians are 150 points but you get TDA, and aren't they ML 3? My first thought was that that's better than wolves get it, but i guess wolves are expensive themselves, so that's not saying much. I dont have the codex in front of me though. Hmm, maybe you're right... Will have a look when i get a chance! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291487-new-faq/page/5/#findComment-3701175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 ++Okay, gang, let's get back on topic. If folks need to discuss the appropriateness of a Space Wolves/Grey Knights alliance, we can start a new thread for that purpose.++ V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291487-new-faq/page/5/#findComment-3701180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Hmm, hammerhand actually makes frost axes worth considering, for wolf guard... I can imaging giving some models in a wolf guard pack power armour, bolt pistol and frost axe. Strength 8 versus 10, but you get an extra attack. edit: haha, ok. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291487-new-faq/page/5/#findComment-3701185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
viddar Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 · Hidden by Valerian, May 29, 2014 - off topic Hidden by Valerian, May 29, 2014 - off topic I don't think the grey knights and wolves would have too much of a problem. They both blame the inquisition for the conflict (grey knights called it the months of shame). It would be strained but they'd trust them than xenos edit: wow didn't realize my post took that long sorry for being off topic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291487-new-faq/page/5/#findComment-3701192
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