idea for chapter origins

[Sergeant Lowe]

I am thinking of changing the origins of my chapter.

 

Currently they are IF successors from the 26th  - this was a reworked idea

 

I am thinking of going back to my original idea which was that they were successor of the Templars but changing them to being a renegade force instead. Basically they would still be loyal but renegades and are walking the line of being declared Traitors

 

 

[Aqui]

I am thinking of changing the origins of my chapter.

Currently they are IF successors from the 26th - this was a reworked idea

I am thinking of going back to my original idea which was that they were successor of the Templars but changing them to being a renegade force instead. Basically they would still be loyal but renegades and are walking the line of being declared Traitors

As far as I know (and I admit freely that my 40k knowledge isn't infinite), the Black Templars never had a successor. However, as there are more than a few Black Templar Crusades in the Imperium (and let's face it, the Imperium isn't exactly the hottest at keeping track of things), you could have one of those Crusades come to realise a few things about the Emperor's domain and decide to take a different approach to things (i.e. not toe the IoM's line, but still fight for humanity)

Ultimately though, if you think that the Templars do/should have successors, then I wouldn't dream of saying other wise

[Olis]

Here's a different idea - how about your chapter is a successor to the Invaders chapter? The Invaders are known to be headstrong and reckless, so a successor could very well cause enough of a ruckus that they are excommunicated, much like the Knights of Blood or the Soul Drinkers. Perhaps they are one accidentally killed Inquisitor away from that. ^_^

[Messor]

Olisredan's suggestion is superb. You have the attitude of the Templars, combined with lore-friendly successor to father your Marines. As Aquilanus pointed it out, the Templars are not considered suitable candidates for a successor by Terra, because of their divergent practices.

[Sergeant Lowe]

I read the background for the Invader and I'm not too sure about using them

 

but here is my idea on how the chapter became who they are

 

The crusade was cut off from the imperium for an extended period of time due to a warp storm - 200-300 years and during this time they develop their own personality but when the storm finally abates they are unwilling to re-join their parent chapter and decide to go it alone but due to the fact that they are not an official chapter they are renegades but they still fight for the Imperium.

[Olis]

Hmm. Unless the warp got to them (a convenient excuse to use by the Imperium btw), there'd have to be a very good reason for Black Templars of any stripe not wanting to rejoin their chapter at large. This is the make or break matter for this idea. 

[Sergeant Lowe]

I like the idea of corrupted by the warp but I was thinking of putting a slight slant to it.

 

Imperial records have them listed as lost in the warp and due to this the Inquisition believe they are tainted (we all know the Inquisition is the type of organisation to shoot first and ask later). However as would be noted in the origins section they have spent the last 2 centuries system bound rather than in the warp.

[Olis]

So, we have the motive for the Imperium to excommunicate them (belief of a warp taint) but we still need a good motive for this breakaway faction of the Templars to, well, break away. Also something to consider: The Black Templars would be incredibly narked if some of their own, rightly or wrongly, were implicated in heresy. They'd become enemy number one overnight for the chapter at large.

[Sergeant Lowe]

They're not excommunicate but they have been declared renegades.

 

another point I thought about having was that they have begun to question the teachings of their chapter