SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Well met Brothers of the Secret Chapter 666. (Whispers..."Is that okay, or will I get mind wiped for that") I come seeking advice. I intend to add a small hard hitting force of Grey Knights as Allies in any Deamonic battles I fight. I have ordered the Codex, but am away from home right now (forces stuff) so was wondering what to use. I was thinking... Librarian, Terminators (not sure which ones, you have so many to choose from) and a Nemesis Dread Knight. Libby to help counter the Psychic stuff ( I'm a Templar, forgive me ), Termies to get into combat with the little ones and the Dready to fight any big ones that turn up. As to weapons or which Termies? I open the floor to the experts, The glorious Grey Knights. Any tips or advice would be gratefully appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berle Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 How many points do you plan to spend on this Strike Force? 500? 1000? Do you plan to assault the daemonic forces or shoot them to bits? How do you handle a large Bloodthirster? These questions needs answers An example could be: Ordo Malleus Inquisitor Empyrean Brain Mines 3x Servo Skulls Psyker Terminator Armour Grey Knight Terminator Squad 7x Terminators 2x Nemesis Force Daemonhammer, 5x Nemesis Force Halberd Thats 8 deepstriking models with TDA - 5 halbards as most daemons dont have 2+ armour. The hammers are there to make sure you kill whatever you assault. The skulls make sure you can make a reliable deepstrike. Aaaanddd its only 394 points :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I'd put at least one psycannon. You can have up to two psycannons in that army (one on the inquisitor and one in the GKT squad). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Yeah drop a Terminator, add in the psycannon on the squad and the Inquisitor. S7 assault cannons are amazing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Thankyou for your input Brothers. To answer your questions... 1) I was looking at around 450 - 550 points. 2) I was hoping for a little of both, Deep Strike in, shoot them a bit, then charge in to glorious close combat the turn after. 3) Is not the Dread Knight for bigger Deamons? I have never thought of GK as an army, so have no idea. Sorry. Re think following the post from Brother Berle. Ordo Malleus Inquisitor, TDA, etc GK Terminator Squad. 8 Terminators 1 or 2 Psi Cannons 2 or 3 Nemesis Force Deamon Hammers The remainder Nemesis Force Halberds Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 After doing some (much needed) research, I believe I have my GK Strike Force. Ordo Malleus Inquisitor Servo Skulls Psyker Terminator Armour Psycannon Grey Knight Terminator Squad 10 x Terminators 2 x Nemesis Force Daemon Hammer and Storm Bolter 8 x Nemesis Force Halberd and Storm Bolter 2 x Nemesis Force Halberd and Psyannon As I have not yet received my C:GK, it is in the post, I am guessing about 600 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 After doing some (much needed) research, I believe I have my GK Strike Force. Ordo Malleus Inquisitor Servo Skulls Psyker Terminator Armour Psycannon Grey Knight Terminator Squad 10 x Terminators 2 x Nemesis Force Daemon Hammer and Storm Bolter 8 x Nemesis Force Halberd and Storm Bolter 2 x Nemesis Force Halberd and Psyannon As I have not yet received my C:GK, it is in the post, I am guessing about 600 points. Not a bad guess. If you exchange the Psycannons for Psilencers on the terminators then you would have made your budget. I would also recommend them if you know your going against daemons (and even if you're not). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanofAngels Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Hi Scott! I suspect a lot of people will be in the same boat as you, trying to work some GK into their normal force simply to counteract the craziness that is soon to be demons. I assume for your small list there that you meant 6 GKT with halberds (right now there's 8 and the squad adds up to 12 ). Assuming those numbers, that squad runs 470 points WITH psybolt ammo. The total, including the HQ (with 3 skulls), is 589, which is a pretty modest detachment but gives you good anti demon power. I know a lot of people are talking about how good Purifiers now are, so you may also want to look into them as a possible alternative . With Purifiers, you could get more warp charges on the table, which of course is useful for shutting down demons. Just an idea! So early in the edition no one knows what the cream of the crop is just yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Purifiers are still PML1 so they're just as good as terminators at producing warp charges. Taking purifiers without Crowe means you're running an unbound list, unless you also include those terminators. Why not go for broke and just get a full GK army Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanofAngels Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Indeed! Crowe is still the chief stank he always was. I meant you could get more purifiers than terminators on the board, generating more charges. Grey Knights are a pretty awesome army to collect! Join us... join us... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 The urge to field an entirely TDA force is indeed compelling. Landraiders and Terminators. Oh I am going to enjoy reading this codex when I get home. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Ah I see yes. Taking cheaper PAGK means you can take more. Purifiers are undoubtedly the best unit we have and can score too. Terminators are good if they're assaulting a unit on an objective. Inquisitor, TDA, Psycannon, PML1, (110) 5x Strike Squad, 1x Psycannon, 4x Halberd. (130) 10x Purifiers, 4x Psycannon, 4x Halberd, 2x Hammer, Psybolt Ammo. (218) Total: 558 You wont be disappointed with that list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanofAngels Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I agree. I think the beauty of GK right now is the options we are provided. Psykers are coming into their own here in 7th (more so even than 6th) and obviously GK excel there. I think a lot of people agree that Purifiers are the best right now (and like I said it seems a little early to declare that). That said, strikes are still great, as are terminators and if you wanna run a terminator with land raider list, now's the time (especially since, if I'm not mistaken, Land Raiders get sanctuary now ). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 The urge to field an entirely TDA force is indeed compelling. Landraiders and Terminators. Oh I am going to enjoy reading this codex when I get home. And then throw half of it away. The FAQ made some drastic changes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanofAngels Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 And then throw half of it away. The FAQ made some drastic changes. I must have missed something... What happened to Land Raiders? The main things I saw was they gained Sanctuary, which seemed like a nice buff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 And then throw half of it away. The FAQ made some drastic changes. I must have missed something... What happened to Land Raiders? The main things I saw was they gained Sanctuary, which seemed like a nice buff. They still do, top of page two on the right column. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Oh, your units all seem to come from two or three boxes, thats great for conversion fans, lots of extra weapons and stuff. Heck throw in some standard marine bits and you could almost build two different squads from each box! Other than the bodies. Cuz they are special, all those Hoods. Ha ha, oh well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3700973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Other than the bodies. Cuz they are special, all those Hoods. Ha ha, oh well. If you have SM you can always do the pauldron style psychic hoods. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3701008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 600 Points; OM Inquisitor, TDA & NDH, Psycannon x7 Total: 560 Points. No Psychics, but 21 Wounds and 7 Psycannons. Pew Pew. Backed up by S6 Thunderhammers. Edit: Points per Wound, an OM Inquisitor with a Psycannon is more efficient than a Paladin. A Paladin rocks in at 27.5 points per wound, while the Inquisitor (with a Psycannon no less) is 26.66~ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3701023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 I am torn, Brothers. The Grey Knight models look amazing and with the extras you get in the PA kit, very easily spread around normal marine kits to quickly add up to a useful force. Although that tiny little voice in my head will nag at me for ever if I do that, So I will probably end up using magnets and be able to use one squad for most things. I am torn between Deepstriking a Terminator Force or Drop Podding/LRR a bigger PA force. I am only taking 1 x HQ and either 1 or 2 troops. I like the idea of a big 10 man Strike Squad, Halberd/SB x 6, PsiCannon x 2, Hammer/SB x 2, Psibolt Ammo, in a FW LRR with an OM Inq with Hammer/SB, Psyker. But I love the idea of Deep Striking Terminators. 2 x Hammer/SB, 6 x Halberds/SB, 1 x Sword/PsiCannon and an TDA OM Inq with Pysker Halberd/SB. I get home in about a week, my Codex is at home waiting for me. Don't tell the Templars but, I may just build a 2000 point GK army! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3702725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt051 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Inquisitor can't take a halberd, only force sword or nemesis hammer, so always take the hammer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3702808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 Inquisitor can't take a halberd, only force sword or nemesis hammer, so always take the hammer Thankyou for the info, my list will be adapted when I finally get out of the desert and get home to read my codex. LOL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3702810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berle Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 If you are considering a force of PA Marines instead of Terminators, then i wouldnt go with a Strike Squad for assaults. They are just regular marines at that point (with force weapons) You could do Purifiers but they require some kind of transport - That will most likely be a landraider since you want them to assault. Suddenly this becomes a very expensive force. A land raider alone is 250p and then add another 100 for the Inquisitor and then at least 130 for Purifiers (5xHalbard) Thats 480p at least. A force of: Inquisitor TDA, Hammer, Pysker 10 Purifiers 3 hammers, 7 halbards Land raider redeemer psyflame ammo Total: 665 points (give the land raider searchlight so you end up with 666 points :D) I think you could be a more dangerous force for less points with terminators and deepstriking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3702841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt051 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Absolutely love the idea of a gk detachment of 666 points. Just need to think of a way to make pure ][ fill the rest to 750 or maybe 1000 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3702909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 If you are considering a force of PA Marines instead of Terminators, then i wouldnt go with a Strike Squad for assaults. They are just regular marines at that point (with force weapons) You could do Purifiers but they require some kind of transport - That will most likely be a landraider since you want them to assault. Suddenly this becomes a very expensive force. A land raider alone is 250p and then add another 100 for the Inquisitor and then at least 130 for Purifiers (5xHalbard) Thats 480p at least. A force of: Inquisitor TDA, Hammer, Pysker 10 Purifiers 3 hammers, 7 halbards Land raider redeemer psyflame ammo Total: 665 points (give the land raider searchlight so you end up with 666 points ) I think you could be a more dangerous force for less points with terminators and deepstriking. Ha ha ha, that is a target, what ever force I end up with, it must add up to 666 points. It has to be a legal, Battle Forged I believe is the new term, I want my Black Templar LRC to be scoring. So HQ and 1 x Troops minimum. I love the idea of the GK teleporting into the middle of the enemy, spraying SB and PsiCannon fire every where then charging the nearest Deamon/witch. But if I do that, they will most likely end up getting charged, not an issue with 6 Halberds and a couple of Hammers. I need hands on my new C:GK to make a good decision, I have also found (during research) that a lot of GK players feel the same way about your current Codex as Templars do about being rolled into the C:SM. It's . So I got an old edition to get proper Fluff. I will read both. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291592-grey-knight-force-to-sort-out-a-deamonic-incursion/#findComment-3702919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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