stephane4985 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 So what are our best options to deal with tanks now in a pure GK list? Sure we can still glance them to death, But if we are up against AV12-AV13 front armor, it is harder to do as with have to shoot on the side to be able to glance with 6s. So what are our best options? plasma accolyte? Vindicare LasBack dreadnought with lascannon? Or simply trying to glance to death? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver fang Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 A good friend of mine, relies on 3 things: 1: A Psyfleman dreadnought with the blessed ammo. 2: A Landraider Redeemer with blessed ammo on the assault cannon and a multi melta. 3: A Librarian with Warp Rift. In general this seems to be enough to cope with most vehicles but good dice rolls will only take you so far. The other half of the equation is a combination of tactics and timing. An interceptor unit with blessed ammo and a psycannon can ruin the rear armour of just about anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/#findComment-3702096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephane4985 Posted May 30, 2014 Author Share Posted May 30, 2014 Yeah, glancing is no more a problem in 7th as it was in 6th. What is troubling me is that now we need ap1 and ap2 to have a chance to explode a vehicule. We don't really have a lot of this. So do we need to have some sorte of ap1, ap2 firepower in our list, if so, what is the best way to include them, without aliies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/#findComment-3702098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver fang Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Just off the top of my head, Razorbacks with TL lascannon, Servitors with multimeltas, Warrior acolytes with meltaguns, Dreadnought with multimeltas, Inquisitors with combiweapons, Stormravens. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/#findComment-3702114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 A good friend of mine, relies on 3 things: 1: A Psyfleman dreadnought with the blessed ammo. I assume you mean Psybolt Ammo? We had Blessed Hull, but not Ammo. 2: A Landraider Redeemer with blessed ammo on the assault cannon and a multi melta. Again, assuming you actually mean Psybolt Ammo, then that would only affect the Assault Cannon, not the Multi-melta. Alternately, you could get Psyflame ammo for flamer-based weapons that would be on a Redeemer. 3: A Librarian with Warp Rift. Well, that's gone now. I suppose he could try for the new Vortex Sanctic power, but that'd be hard to pull off, probably. An interceptor unit with blessed ammo and a psycannon can ruin the rear armour of just about anything. Yeah, Psybolt ammo on an Interceptor squad that Shunts would also work, but be prepared to lose the expensive squad in the next game turn. v Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/#findComment-3702146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt051 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 If "pure gk" means no =][= at all, then your options are psycannons, psyflemen, or any vehicle based las cannons or multi-meltas. For high av, multi-meltas on a raven/raider are your best bet. Maybe las cannon razorbacks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/#findComment-3702147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnImA8 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Psyflemen are definitely our friends. Even while everyone was claiming they were bad I was stuffing three into my lists. The ranged firepower is just too good to pass up.Aside from the dreads, for us puritans (glad to see someone else has joined the ranks ) we're really looking at lasbacks, meltas on Land Raiders and Stormravens, and Daemon Hammers. A lot of people have really good luck with spamming psycannons--I play nothing but pure Grey Knights with Psycannons and I haven't rended since early 4th lol XDBut definitely don't underestimate those daemon hammers. If you can get Terminators to close from a Stormraven, or a Dreadknight with PT's to get in there, they'll make short work of vehicles. It's what you do for the first few turns that matters then, and thats why I like Psyflemen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/#findComment-3702393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Sorry to hijack a thread, but I have a quick question. I just found out what a Psyfleman is, massively cool by the way, and after floating around the GK section of B&C thought I saw that they could shoot flyers too. Is that right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/#findComment-3703058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ania Redfang Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Anything can shoot flyers... Hitting on 6s though, they don't have Skyfire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/#findComment-3703089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Thanks for the info. 4 shots, re rolling, S8 with Psibolts? I will take 2 please. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/#findComment-3703116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 We don't need no stinking Melta! Psybolts and Psycannons, FTW! SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/#findComment-3703119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 PsyDreads for general purpose anti-everything Raven multi-meltas for AV13/14 Most of our other platforms are either too fragile or don't produce enough dakka for their cost. Acolytes w/meltaguns don't have Deepstrike, so unlike Scions or BA Assault Marines you can't easily suicide melta things (Henchmen die in a stiff breeze). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/#findComment-3703261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VVolf Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 We have Dreadknights. 2 of mine wiped out three tau tanks in a single game. You can give them teleporters and greatswords to make sure the job gets done. Might even provide a distraction for the psycannons/autocannons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/#findComment-3703474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Dreadknights don't need a PT to deepstrike but the heavy psycannons blast means you're only hitting a tank once, although you might hit two tanks if they're close and it doesn't scatter. The best thing we have against vehicles is probably a Stormraven since it can attack vehicles with little fear of retaliation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/#findComment-3703723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 The PT give a DK a 12" move, and can be used to enhance a charge into a vehicle. Tanks should not survive a PT/GS DK. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/#findComment-3703827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Oh yeah, DK's can eat tanks, but more commony you are using them to eat enemy Troops or annoying support infantry. He does horrific things to most infantry. Typically though you want ranged anti-tank so you can threaten them Turn 1, DK takes at least a turn if not 2 to get into position for a charge on their Manticore or whatever. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291667-taking-care-of-tanks-with-pure-gk/#findComment-3704298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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