Horus Heresy Forum - What do we want this to be?

[Scribe]

The god forums are almost dead space though (at least the Khorne one).

 

Personally (as noted before) I dont think the other forums (BL, WIP, etc) are useless, but if I want to discuss a HH book, look at HH Models, and talk HH tactics, I'd rather it be here.

[Hyaenidae]

No matter what, the board isn't being split up, like the Gods forums. If anything, it would be a simple sub-sub-forum for pure 30k tactics, and it would exist on a probationary period. If it worked, it'd stay. If not, it dies, and other options would be researched.

 

This is not about keeping sections of the forum separate from each other. It's more like re-arranging a bookshelf, so that everything is easy to access, easy to find, and easy to enjoy, all in one room.

[Conn Eremon]

That sub-sub-forum for tactics would totally rock my boat.

[Tyrannicide]

I want this to be a forum where we can bag on 40k and how much GW sucks.

[Daemon2027]

No matter what, the board isn't being split up, like the Gods forums. If anything, it would be a simple sub-sub-forum for pure 30k tactics, and it would exist on a probationary period. If it worked, it'd stay. If not, it dies, and other options would be researched.

 

This is not about keeping sections of the forum separate from each other. It's more like re-arranging a bookshelf, so that everything is easy to access, easy to find, and easy to enjoy, all in one room.

i could see that working.

 

out of interest why did the new fw HH release thread die. That would be a good sticky

[Theis]

As it stands, right now, I can hit the Heresy forum once a week or so, and see pretty much the last week's worth of active topics on the front page. I like that. It's a one stop shopping sort of thing. I open up a bunch of tabs, read each thread while I have my coffee, and then get on with the day.

 

Mmmmm, coffee.

 

If it's organizationally and administratively convenient for the mods to organize it a bit further, cool, a couple more tabs get opened, one for each subforum, then one for each thread I want to read. It costs me a couple more clicks. 

 

Then again I browse fora from a desk with three monitors on it, lots of screen real estate to make use of. If I were browsing from a phone, it might prove a bit more cumbersome, but then again, if I'm using the phone to do some reading, I approach it with its limitations in mind.

 

Ultimately, I'll come down on the side of, whatever makes life easier for the folks who provide this space for us. Any extra effort required on my part will be minimally more expenditure.

[Pyromancer]

We could combine the 'HH Army Lists' Sub-forum, and make it an 'HH Army List and Tactics' Subforum?

[Kol Saresk]

I think they should be embraced in the one forum. There is ton of activity in each thread, but not enough to warrant each one being divided into its one sub-forum. Especially WIP threads since there is no reason at all that they cannot use the same WIP and Hall of Honour subforums everyone else uses.

 

There can be the argument can be made "But the tactics keep falling behind in the pages." So does the Fleets of the Heresy thread but it keeps making its way forward again and again. What we could do is make an index and link each thread together to make finding those threads easier, but somehow I imagine it would mitigate things, not eliminate them.

[Komrk]

I see no problem with splitting it for organization's sake. I already go to Raven Guard, AoD, Dark Angels, OR, Tactica, Amicus, and Heresy so I don't see how splitting the Horus Heresy forum would be a problem. It would also help with determining what's what as was mentioned in the original thread in the suggestion box (I believe?) Where a thread like Terminator Armor or Mk VI armor could be asking about rules/tactics, modeling/painting stuff, or a fluff discussion. If it makes it easier for the mods and organization I'm all for it.

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

I can see how Lore, Hobby & Rules subforums would work, but three separate sections is really the max feasible without diluting the content too heavily.

 

I think a good example is Heresy30k - there are really too many forums, so you might have 5 threads with new posts per forum each day, plus you have to trawl through them if you want to see if anything new & interesting has arisen, as the content is so dispersed amongst the different pages.

 

But, admittedly, as someone who has no interest in rules / tactics, I would find having lore & hobby as separate entities useful - plus the traffic on this forum means that threads tend to vanish from the 1st page pretty quickly - I might post an update in the morning, and the thread has disappeared by the end of the day.

 

I think its a balance:

 

*Traffic - you don't want to dilute the forum's traffic too much by subdividing it too heavily (we don't want any more ghost towns like the IHs' subforum has become), but you don't want threads vanishing too quickly, especially considering members hail from multiple timezones.

 

*Content - for those of us only really interested in the 30k content of the B&C, having it all in one / a couple of place(s) is really useful. However, being able to find something specific is really desirable, and allows each member to tailor their visits to their own taste. Personally, I only really visit 3 of the B&Cs forums: Horus Heresy, Works in Progress & Iron Hands. Undoubtedly I've missed really interesting content due to this limited viewing, but I'm not interested in investigating content that doesn't pique my interest on the off chance of striking gold - too many forums would undoubtedly diminish member discourse.

[Yogi]

The god forums are almost dead space though (at least the Khorne one).

 

 

Its funny I once asked people in chaos ascendant if they thought all the chaos forums should be merged back. You go to the Khorne forum and write a response and the last post is ages old but still on the first page. The response was keep the separate god forums (Fair enough nurgle is disgusting). In reality though I only go to chaos ascendant, the others are way to slow for my liking. People don't like change (even tzeentch followers)

[Daemon2027]

Could the lack of traffic be to do with the current Chaos codex. The better supported codex chapters post more in their sub forums. Maybe if there were supplements for each chaos faction there would be more posts there.

[Kol Saresk]

Part of it, I think(in my opinion; feel free to disregard) is that in the Chaos forums, there once was enough traffic to justify a split. But then through various reasons, all the extraneous traffic converged into Chaos Ascendant and all the other sub-forums of the Chapters/Codices everyone started using as a count-as army. And its never really moved back.

 

The difference is, most of the traffic in the HH forum is in the lore category. Rules and tactics just kind of spurt along. One day there'll be thread that starts out brand new and reaches three pages, and the next its already back on page three, not because nobody could find it, but because it served its purpose and the interest in it died. And then eight months later, someone new will come along asking about the same thing and starting a new topic because they didn't search for the old one.

 

The Heresy has plenty of traffic now a days. But everyone in the flow has ADHD. Something will pop up and then die. The more devoted will occasionally resuscitate as needed. Examples are the Fleets of the Heresy and the now-locked "New Heresy Releases" thread. But tides come and go. And creating new sub-forums takes up its own memory creating new pathways and considering how much trouble the servers have had in the last year, it might be "convenient", but I'm not sure its "needed".

[TemujinZero]

Another vote for Lore / Gaming / Modelling. I would dislike more than 3 forums, and I don't like that the tactics threads got dumped in with 40K stuff. I'm happy with one forum for everything, but I think a three way split might help stuff stay on the first page longer, and a specific 40K modelling forum would be beautiful.

[Brother Tyler]

Decision: Okay, we have created a sub-forum specifically for tactica discussions relating to the Horus Heresy setting from Forge World. As with the Horus Heresy Army Lists sub-forum, the Horus Heresy Tactica sub-forum is a child of the main Tactica forum while also having a direct link from the Horus Heresy forum.

 

You can see the new sub-forum here.

[Daemon2027]

Thanks Brother Tyler :)

 

Should we make a thread for each of the released Legion or just let it happen on its own?

[Angrypantz]

Instead of splitting everything into lots of smaller sections pertinent but rather three sections; a fluff section, wip/hall of honour esque section and misc section for anything else.

 

Ultimately it is up to the Mods but this could be a way of sorting out the growing HH forum into more manageable chunks with perhaps sub-moderators.

[Stormborn]

I like things the way they are all jumbled together because sometimes you stumble over a real gem and I might not have seen it had there been a sub forum for it.  I am quite happy to let the mods do what they feel is best.