SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Well met brothers, I am still trying to get over how all the different toys you guys have work. I have been pondering a question. With a GK Halberd @ I6 and Storm Bolters all around, is it better to charge in for the extra attack or sit back and Overwatch the bad guys with Incinerators and Psibolt ammo and then still go first with I6 AP3 weapons? I'm not sure about this one, I think it would depend on the size of the attacking unit, but it could be a sound tactic if used correctly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291786-to-charge-or-be-charged/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Generally you should try and get the charge, extra attacks > Overwatch. Also, because we're all armed with assault weapons (except psilencers, which you should never ever take), you can freely move+shoot+charge. However yes, halberds do deter assaults generally. Most people don't like S6 AP3 to the face before they can even swing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291786-to-charge-or-be-charged/#findComment-3704352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Agreed. extra I6 attacks are better than snap shooting S5 AP5 shots, even if you do get two. If the extra NFW attacks are S6 then its even better Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291786-to-charge-or-be-charged/#findComment-3704623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Ha, lets see... 10 PAGK, 2 Psi-cannons, 2 SB/NFH, 6 SB/Halberds with psibolts Shooting = 8 st8 shots and 16 st5 shots - 24 attacks. Charge = 12 x I6 AP3, 4 x I4 ap- and 4 I1 st 10, 20 attacks with more chance of wounding. I see your point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291786-to-charge-or-be-charged/#findComment-3704743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Psycannons don't benefit from psybolt ammo. And while in most cases the difference is moot, your hammers are only S8 without hammerhand Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291786-to-charge-or-be-charged/#findComment-3705104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Psycannons don't benefit from psybolt ammo. And while in most cases the difference is moot, your hammers are only S8 without hammerhand Once again, I thank a GK for his imparted knowledge, I will get out of this desert and read my new codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291786-to-charge-or-be-charged/#findComment-3705134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 desertPun intended? With purifiers now not needing to charge in order to cast cleansing flame makes me wonder if the extra 8 psycannon shots would be worth it. Thats 8 S7 AP4 shots as opposed to 10 S6 (optimally) AP3 attacks. Probably just depends on the situation. edited post to match the quoted quote below. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291786-to-charge-or-be-charged/#findComment-3705140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 desertPun intended? With purifiers now not needing to charge in order to cast cleansing flame makes me wonder if the extra 8 psycannon shots would be worth it. Thats 8 S7 AP4 shots as opposed to 10 S6 (optimally) AP3 attacks. Probably just depends on the situation. Thankfully not, No pun intended, rather a foul rant. I will edit the post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291786-to-charge-or-be-charged/#findComment-3705161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Actually I made booboo. It's only 6 S6 AP3 attacks (and 4 S6 AP- attacks) extra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291786-to-charge-or-be-charged/#findComment-3705179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I say they are always worth it, mainly for ranged ability to wound bigger things, or to drop droves of bodies from those irritating blob units like massed IG or big ork mobs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291786-to-charge-or-be-charged/#findComment-3705946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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