Ovidius Incertus Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Allow me a newb gameplay question: I haven't played since 5th ed. and am newbish to playing in general, so the overwatch and snap shot idea is novel to me. Was playing some practice with my girlfriend and we ran into an issue with overwatch. My question is, overwatch is resolved at WS 1, so 6+. But are overwatch shooters allowed to fire to their full attacks and full weapon effect? The example was when her assault terms charged my shooty terms (3x storm bolters, 1x ass cannon). Do my overwatch shooters get their 2 attacks to the full effect of the weapon? So would I get 3x2x2 = 12 storm bolter overwatch shots PLUS 2x4 = 8 ass cannon shots, at all 6+ to hit? Or does each model in the charged unit only get 1 overwatch shot? We couldn't find anything in the rules for overwatch or snap shots that answered this. Also, what about a CML? Could the guy with the ass cannon have gotten 1 ass cannon shot and 1 CML shot on overwatch? Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291841-need-help-with-overwatch-rules/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Angelus Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Overwatch is a shooting attack at BS1, you fire all of the weapons at their profiles. You don't multiple the shots by your combat attacks. Once the overwatch is resolved you fight in combat as normal. You can fire Krak CML but not Frag, because its a blast weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291841-need-help-with-overwatch-rules/#findComment-3705671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aradiel Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 the Attacks characteristic is melee attacks, not shooting ones. so so in your example its 6 storm bolter shots and 4 assault cannon shots. like said above firing kraks yes, frags no, as they are blast. also afaik you cant have both a assault cannon and a CLM in the same model Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291841-need-help-with-overwatch-rules/#findComment-3705766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm just curious if you were playing 5th edition with multiplying a weapons shots by your attacks characteristic? If so, I bet you won a lot!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291841-need-help-with-overwatch-rules/#findComment-3705885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovidius Incertus Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 Only ever played 1 abbreviated game with a friend in 5th using his armies and it was over 2 years ago, so I was trying to remember to how the shooting phase went! My brain ain't what it used to be with old age! Thanks for the clarification(s)! Sure I'll be back in more need! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291841-need-help-with-overwatch-rules/#findComment-3706259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenONE Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 You shoot the full value of the weapon profile (Assault X, Heavy X, Rapid Fire, where X is equal to the number listed on the weapon). The only things that cannot fire overwatch are Vehicles, Witchfires, and Blasts. The exception to vehicles is an open-topped transport that has passengers embarked, again at BS1. Templates follow the Wall of Death rule and are D3 per template. Only 1 overwatch per unit can be fired. So if the first charge fails, you cannot overwatch another squad about to charge you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291841-need-help-with-overwatch-rules/#findComment-3706281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovidius Incertus Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 Templates follow the Wall of Death rule and are D3 per template. Still trying to suffle my way through all the rules before taking games off the living room coffee table. Can you clarify this? You can overwatch your flamers (or heavy flamers) at BS1--provided the charging unit is w/in range of the template--just not weapons that fire blast templates (e.g. plas cannon or frag missile)? I'm unsure of what Wall of Death is, and don't have the book to had at the moment. Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291841-need-help-with-overwatch-rules/#findComment-3706324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 All of this is covered under "Snap Shots" and "Template" in the special rules section of the basic rule book. [edited becasue, as Seahawk said, this is getting a little close to rules fishing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291841-need-help-with-overwatch-rules/#findComment-3706356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Your answer is on page 173, TEMPLATES > Wall of Death. Can't give away rules on the forums here. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291841-need-help-with-overwatch-rules/#findComment-3706360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 But suffice to say, its because flamers dont use ballistic skill, so they had to figure something else out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291841-need-help-with-overwatch-rules/#findComment-3706878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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