Joeyray Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Hello Brothers,I was flicking through The Outcast Dead the other day, and I was engrossed in the sections about Arik and his merry band, especially about their arms and armaments. One paragraph mentions his gun: "It gleamed with all the love and care that had been lavished upon it, a hand-finished assault rifle... it bore a carven eagle upon its barrel, and though it was much larger than any pistol borne by Ghota, it clearly belonged in the same class of firearm... it as a boltgun, but no warrior of the Legiones Astartes had borne a weapon of such brutal an archaic design since the union of Terra and Mars"- McNeil, G. The Outcast Dead. P.g. 297 Any ideas on how to model such a piece of beauty? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Think kalash and Phobos have sexy times. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3707036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeyray Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 Hmmm Kais, I always seen it like the B.A.R as some nasty heavy hitting outdated rifle compared to its "standard" 30k equivalents. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3707038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I envisioned it as the beauty held in this gentleman's hands: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111110054154/warhammer40k/images/1/1e/Mk1_Thunder_Armour.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3707048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 In terms of modelling though, flamers would work nicely; add barrels and green stuff the promethium tanks into magazines and you get the desired look. Could do it with meltas and plasma guns, but they would require fiddly attachment of magazines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3707062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karden00 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I envisioned it as the beauty held in this gentleman's hands: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111110054154/warhammer40k/images/1/1e/Mk1_Thunder_Armour.jpg I remember this picture! Where does this sit in current fluff? I dont have my old Codex handy. Is it a "thunder warrior" or "thunder pattern" power armour space marine? Or is a huge anachronism that isnt around anymore? There shouldnt have been any thunder warriors marked with the agemo.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3707227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Maybe ceremonial plate? I could see a Terran veteran, carrying an Ultima banner, amongst a Legion force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3707232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 "It gleamed with all the love and care that had been lavished upon it, a hand-finished assault rifle... it bore a carven eagle upon its barrel, and though it was much larger than any pistol borne by Ghota, it clearly belonged in the same class of firearm... it as a boltgun, but no warrior of the Legiones Astartes had borne a weapon of such brutal an archaic design since the union of Terra and Mars"- McNeil, G. The Outcast Dead. P.g. 297 There's just something about McNeill's prose I find...grating. It lacks that spark or flourish so often present in the prose of Abnett, ADB, and nowadays Wraight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3708668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeyray Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 There's just something about McNeill's prose I find...grating. It lacks that spark or flourish so often present in the prose of Abnett, ADB, and nowadays Wraight. Each to their own b1soul, I personally usually enjoy his work, Storm of Iron was one of my first ventures into the fluff and got me hooked. On topic I was looking at using the Phobo's boltgun as a base to tinker with since it is a nice chunky piece of metal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3709418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Is it a "thunder warrior" or "thunder pattern" power armour space marine? Or is a huge anachronism that isnt around anymore? There shouldnt have been any thunder warriors marked with the agemo.... It's a Space Marine wearing Mk I "Thunder" armour, not a Thunder Warrior. The very first generation of Space Marines are supposed to have used the same equipment as the Thunder Warriors in the brief period between their founding and the start of the Great Crusade, for which Mk II "Crusade" armour was created. As the quotation says: "no warrior of the Legiones Astartes had borne a weapon of such brutal, archaic design since the union of Terra and Mars". Presumably meaning that before the union of Terra and Mars, the Space Marines had borne such brutal, archaic weapons. The Mk I miniature in the Armour through the Ages box carries a bolter just like that artwork: http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99810101076_ArmourThroughAgesNEW01.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3709476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Yep. As Lucien has pointed out - Thunder Warriors and Thunder pattern power armour are not synonymous. Thunder Warriors were (allegedly) the Emperor's first foray into genetic tinkering and were notoriously unstable, if powerful. Thunder pattern power armour is basically Mk1 power armour. It's called 'Thunder' because of the markings on the suits warriors bore - thunderbolts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3709589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Based in the pics and having just peeked over the new Flash Gitz bits.. Maybe use one of their gun stocks and embellish it,using bolter muzzles? For some low tech brutality, one might use some of the old Mutant chronicle guns? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3709623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 The Khan has a honour guard of Thunder Armour wearing marines on his flagship. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3709626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 The old ork shooters are a bit like chunky bolters. Got some in a bits boxes somewhere which I've rummaged through recently. Think I'll have another rummage in the morning. The other thing I've just noticed is if you look at all those marks they have the same backpacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3709760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I suggest they have used volkite's too (as volkites were the bolter before the bolter^^) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3710264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I'm not sure about that. I thought the background suggested Volkite weapons were originally a Mechanicus thing, and the Thunder Warriors were more or less extinct by the end of the Unification Wars, before the Treaty of Mars. They're essentially Martian ray-guns. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3710276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I thought the background suggested Volkite weapons were originally a Mechanicus thing... *snip*... They're essentially Martian ray-guns. Indeed. They are described as "...a variety of thermal ray weapons of ancient Martian provenance." This supports the theory that Volkite weapons are Martian, as opposed to of a common origin. and the Thunder Warriors were more or less extinct by the end of the Unification Wars, before the Treaty of Mars. Agreed - Thunder Warriors were deliberately killed off by the Emperor, almost to a man, while the Unification Wars were still winding down. However - this does not rule out the early Legions having Volkites - it's likely that the last battles of the Wars were made after the Treaty of Mars, hence Terran Astartes being able to use them on Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3710337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I think it's neat that their Power armor was purpose built for their guns. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3710386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I wonder what stat line a Thunder warrior would have compared to a marine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3710484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raulmichile Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Very similar I guess. The difference would be in the special rules the would have to remark their differences. Maybe BS3 with less shooting weapon options, but with furious charge, hammer of wrath, stubborn in hth combat or things like that to emphasize their brutality. Otherwise no big changes. At least this is how I imagine them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3711339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 After reading The Outcast Dead I figured they may be stronger and tougher to represent the fact they burn themselves out and so their general physique is more augmented. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3711552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 After reading The Outcast Dead I figured they may be stronger and tougher to represent the fact they burn themselves out and so their general physique is more augmented. The impression is that they're big hyper-aggressive brutes prone to malfunction. Astartes are superior soldiers. TW are probably the best berserkers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291921-thunder-warrior-armaments/#findComment-3711579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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