NoLats_McGee Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I really want to take the plunge and join the 30k master race, guys. I really do. 40k just doesn't interest me anymore in the way that 30k does. But, I have so many 40k chaos space marine bits lying around, and as a poor student I just can't bring myself to waste them. My army of choice is Iron Warriors, and that won't change. I already have a collection of various 30k bits from Forge World, and would use these predominantly. My question is, would the sprinkling of Chaos Marine legs, shoulder pads, torsos etc be accurate for an Iron Warriors force during the Siege of Terra? All arrows, and eight-pointed stars.And since I love talking about these things, how far could this go for other legions? Word Bearers is obvious, of course :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291958-justifying-chaos-bits-at-the-siege-of-terra/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I say YES!!! As per BL's Angel Exterminatus we've left the.... ...Iron Warrior fleet heading into the eye of the storm at the centre of The Eye of Terror , I'd expect at least some changes by Terra. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291958-justifying-chaos-bits-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-3707693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLats_McGee Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 I say YES!!! As per BL's Angel Exterminatus we've left the.... ...Iron Warrior fleet heading into the eye of the storm at the centre of The Eye of Terror , I'd expect at least some changes by Terra. Cheers, Jono Haha, funny that, I was thinking that Angel Exterminatus' ending could be the justification. I seem to be the only one here who likes that book though :p Also, inb4 derail to THREAD DEBATING ANGEL EXTERMINATUS #904850924392345 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291958-justifying-chaos-bits-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-3707698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdemayo Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 As the heresy continues, we should start to see more mark vi peices among the loyalists, and mark v peices for everyone. The traitor legions should get more chaos elements, gradually for some legions, dramatically for others. The Emperors Children , for example, seem to have significant choas modifications as early as istvaan. By terra, their transformation into unholy maniacs will be complete. The death guard will become plague marines by then, etc. On terra, the loyalists will have some mark vii peices. By the end of the seige, I think you could justify almost any choas armor bit from the modern range. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291958-justifying-chaos-bits-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-3707733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Word Bearers (Gal Vorbak, etc.) were also Chaos'y by Istvaan. And, by Calth they had full fledged Daemons. Surprisingly, despite the Nails (and the whole 'rage' thing), the World Eaters were still less Chaos'y at Armatura, after Istvaan, though. And Khârn was still 'sane' at that time. I think they really only started turning after Angron became a DP. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291958-justifying-chaos-bits-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-3707901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoros Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Also, inb4 derail to THREAD DEBATING ANGEL EXTERMINATUS #904850924392345 Must... stop... self... complaining... about... Sharrowkyn... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291958-justifying-chaos-bits-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-3708011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Even the regular Word Bearers are showing signs of Chaos mutation by the Battle of Calth - one Legionary, after his helmet had been knocked off, showed discolored skin, distorted features, and budding horns. The Sons of Horus, per the events of Vengeful Spirit, are showing signs of corruption as well. There is an illustration in the book that shows a Terminator with a boarding shield displaying blatant Chaos iconography. As for the Iron Warriors, I have no idea. I know they still had their organization, cohesion, and appearance intact during the events of Angel Exterminatus. How they would change from that point forward, I say use your imagination. Note that even after the Traitors had fled into the Eye of Terror, the Iron Warriors kept their paint scheme and most of their cohesion, preferring to cut off mutated body parts and replace them with mechanical augmentations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291958-justifying-chaos-bits-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-3708574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strazhakov Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Note that even after the Traitors had fled into the Eye of Terror, the Iron Warriors kept their paint scheme and most of their cohesion, preferring to cut off mutated body parts and replace them with mechanical augmentations. That never really made sense to me. The mutations are the blessings of the Gods. How dare they remove them? But seriously doesn't Nurgle get "offended" when he grants you a slimy tail/bug eye/nose horn etc. and you proceed to cut it off? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291958-justifying-chaos-bits-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-3708641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Also, inb4 derail to THREAD DEBATING ANGEL EXTERMINATUS #904850924392345 Must... stop... self... complaining... about... Sharrowkyn... Or any of the loyalists in that book for that matter, "hey, this experiment might destroy the ship and kill all of us who survived Istvaan V but hey, no cyberneticly enhanced guts.... no glory" Back on topic, id say yes to spikey bits, maybe a no on daemon horns just yet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291958-justifying-chaos-bits-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-3708674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Angel Exterminatus = Worst portrayal of the Iron Warriors ever. *sigh* Back on topic, I'd say hell yes. The Death Guard are definitely corrupted by the Siege, the World Eaters are already on the path, the EC have been screwed up for a while, The SoH are off the deep end as of Vengeful Spirit, etc. Plenty of excuses for horns and fleshy armour. You weirdos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291958-justifying-chaos-bits-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-3708794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLats_McGee Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 Angel Exterminatus = Worst portrayal of the Iron Warriors ever. *sigh* Back on topic, I'd say hell yes. The Death Guard are definitely corrupted by the Siege, the World Eaters are already on the path, the EC have been screwed up for a while, The SoH are off the deep end as of Vengeful Spirit, etc. Plenty of excuses for horns and fleshy armour. You weirdos. Bad portrayal of the Iron Warriors, yes. But, I loved how old mate Graham portrayed Perturabo. To me, that is everything Perturabo should be, and by extension how I see the Iron Warriors. Overlookd genuises. Wasted potential. Creative, but duty-bound to do whatever is required. Now, before I derail the thread myself, thank you everyone for the input :D I agree fully with the Word Bearers, they would likely be mostly modern chaos marines by Terra. Probably even scarier. World eaters, I guess would be about 50/50. Khorne Icons would probably be more prominent, and maybe red armour in places? Death guard is obvious, the Thousand Sons is an interesting topic though. As for the Alpha Legion, they're too busy lowering the Vengeful Spirit's void shields ;D For Iron Warriors though, the advice here looks sound. A sprinkling of pointy bits and chaos stars makes sense, to show allegiances at the very least. And of course there'd be no mutations.. that's for the weaker traitors not part of bionics/PC master race 40k! Also, inb4 derail to THREAD DEBATING ANGEL EXTERMINATUS #904850924392345 Must... stop... self... complaining... about... Sharrowkyn... *Mary Suerowkin ... I'll leave now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291958-justifying-chaos-bits-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-3708839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I imagine the World Eaters armour will be red by the siege. Not paint, but the blood of the followers of the false God. I hope that the Legions wont be full chaos by the siege though, would be nice if it wasn't a strength up good guys vs bad guys battle and there was still some motive, other then for the Chaos gods, from the traitors. I'm also hoping that Khârn will remain semi sane, at least until he is killed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291958-justifying-chaos-bits-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-3708845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizwald23 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I would say that yes u can use a lot of the bits for a late heresy force. Just one thing though if I remember right the iron warriors did not like the mk6 version of armor because it didn't provide enough protection when they tested it out. So I would avoid using a lot of mk6 components. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291958-justifying-chaos-bits-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-3708911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Angel Exterminatus = Worst portrayal of the Iron Warriors ever. Bad portrayal of the Iron Warriors, yes. But, I loved how old mate Graham portrayed Perturabo. To me, that is everything Perturabo should be, and by extension how I see the Iron Warriors. Overlookd genuises. Wasted potential. Creative, but duty-bound to do whatever is required. Lord, I hate to be a de-railer again, but still a no. I preferred my cold father without another "I was a good guy, see?" story. I didn't need to see some warm, cuddly side of Perturabo. He should have always been left cold and aloof, with a god-level temper and a sense of utter remorselessness. Best depiction of Perty so far has been in The Crimson Fist. That... that was perfect. From the sheer fear of his own officers in speaking their minds, to the simple and to the point way of speaking, to his quick-snap temper that would leave death it it's wake. AE was an utter disappointment after that. Not all evil men were once good. Some simply walk the razor's edge until self-realization. That's the Perturabo I know and love. Thanks to Alan Bligh and the FW design team for keeping the Iron Warriors as they should have always been. I would say that yes u can use a lot of the bits for a late heresy force. Just one thing though if I remember right the iron warriors did not like the mk6 version of armor because it didn't provide enough protection when they tested it out. So I would avoid using a lot of mk6 components. Back on track... Brother Axe-to-the-face would like to have a word with you on this source of information... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/291958-justifying-chaos-bits-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-3708944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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