Fytharin Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Greetings brothers! I have noticed around the thread some people asking, where do you find that rule? (Myself included) Often times pertaining to rules found outside of our rulebook/codex. One of the best things a commander can know are his/her options available to them, therefore I would like to compile a list here of any source outside of the rulebook and codex that contains units and rules that apply to our Space Wolves. I want to do this for a number of reasons. One of which is that a lot of new players don't realize all of the options available to them through publications, Black Library, Forgeworld, etc; and are hesitant to spend the money without knowing what exactly is contained. I myself happen to be one of them! Therefore I need The Fangs help in compiling this list. If you would like to contribute please post: *The name of the article/book/dataslate/etc; *The location on where to view it/if it needs to be purchased and where * A BRIEF description of what it contains that is available to Space Wolves Please include fortifications, characters, buildings, tanks, aircraft, dataslates, anything we can use but please specify if they are only accepted in certain formats. I would like this thread to contain references to units used in Apoc, escalation, normal games, etc; you get the picture. For the purpose of this thread I would like to confine our list to units available to our codex. Allied detachments and formations would simply make this list too big unmanageable. Also if there is a model made by either GW or FW then please mention that as well! Please DO NOT list specific rules, stats, or links to scans of book pages I will be linking where legal. The sole purpose of this thread is to gather a convenient archive for the community to reference. General Space Wolf FAQ's - Contains the revised rules to our current codex. Available for free on Black Library Characters Bran Redmaw - Imperial Armor Volume 11 can be purchased from Forge World. Contains the rules needed to field this character. No model at this time. Cypher - Ebook purchased through Black Library. Contains the rules needed to field this character. Model is available. Dreadnought Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought - Rules are found in the Imperial Armor Volume 2 - 2nd Edition which can be purchased through Forgeworld. Contains the rules needed to field this model. Model is available. Siege Dreadnought - Rules are found in the Imperial Armor Volume 2 - 2nd Edition which can be purchased through Forgeworld. Contains the rules needed to field this model. Model is available. Knights Imperial Knight - Rule book purchased through GW. Contains the rules needed for this faction and main model. Model is available. Cerastus Knight-Lancer - Rules available for free on Forgeworld. Contains the rules needed to field this model. Model is available. Aircraft Fire Raptor Gunship - Rules are found in the Imperial Armor Volume 2 - 2nd Edition which can be purchased through Forgeworld. Contains the rules needed to field this model. Model is available. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 the fire raptor rules up on forge world's site are out of date and different to the ones in IA2: 2nd edition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3711878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 How bout contempt or dreadnoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3711886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 They're in ia apocalypse (2013) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3711912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 the fire raptor rules up on forge world's site are out of date and different to the ones in IA2: 2nd edition. Edited - thanks for the heads up How bout contempt or dreadnoughts? They're in ia apocalypse (2013) Added, thanks for the extra input skele What dataslates are available to us right now? Is it all of the Space Marine ones? Or do those need to be taken as an allied detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3711934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 No worries! As to C:SM detachments, there's not really any difference. The formation isn't really an 'allied detachment', it's a formation, and is battle brothers to any and all imperial armies. It's 100% as accessible to SW as SM. It seems that even many of the buffs that ICs and the like give are now based on detachment (psychic powers are one exception though), so even if an army is a primary of space marines combined with and a formation such as space marine strike force alpha, they're still separate detachments and many buffs won't transfer between them... just like if space wolves were the primary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3711959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Just remembered. Stormwing formation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3711960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Btw I assume you mean formations here - Cypher is on a dataslate but he's not part of any formation that we can access (we just take him) So in short we have access to all the space marine data slates (reclusive communist squad, tyrant warrior cetaceans, storm wigs, and strike face ultra) the tempus militarum ones (2 in codex, plus that new box), anything IG might have, plus there's probably a few others that I am missing. Umm, I think Dentists of Terra has one, and perhaps clan radian? I sincerely hope GW morph the apocalypse Battlezone releases into regular 40k releases. Apoc seems mostly unnecessary with super heavies, formations and unbound armies now in the game - I can see it having a continued existence but hopefully it will be a smaller add on with strategy cards etc (IMO). I think GW would get a lot more interest in their warzone books if they started to provide regular 40k formations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3711964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Terrific idea for a thread, Fytharin; well done! How would you like to establish the boundaries for this effort, though? Do you only want to include everything that we have access to? I would recommend that it be limited to only those units that we can include without having to incorporate an Allied Detachment, because if we include allied units, too, then the scope will be too large to be realistically managed. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3712246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 I like this thread as well. Would anyone be interested in a similar thread for the wolves fluff locations (ie white dwarf ###, battle of the fang etc. ..) Just realized the resources page has the white dwarf #'s but we don't seem to have a list of the other books with fluff insights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3712291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 No worries! As to C:SM detachments, there's not really any difference. The formation isn't really an 'allied detachment', it's a formation, and is battle brothers to any and all imperial armies. It's 100% as accessible to SW as SM. It seems that even many of the buffs that ICs and the like give are now based on detachment (psychic powers are one exception though), so even if an army is a primary of space marines combined with and a formation such as space marine strike force alpha, they're still separate detachments and many buffs won't transfer between them... just like if space wolves were the primary. That's what I thought, hence why I didn't add it in myself. I was only wanting this to be strictly for units that we do not have to ally in . Btw I assume you mean formations here - Cypher is on a dataslate but he's not part of any formation that we can access (we just take him) So in short we have access to all the space marine data slates (reclusive communist squad, tyrant warrior cetaceans, storm wigs, and strike face ultra) the tempus militarum ones (2 in codex, plus that new box), anything IG might have, plus there's probably a few others that I am missing. Umm, I think Dentists of Terra has one, and perhaps clan radian? I sincerely hope GW morph the apocalypse Battlezone releases into regular 40k releases. Apoc seems mostly unnecessary with super heavies, formations and unbound armies now in the game - I can see it having a continued existence but hopefully it will be a smaller add on with strategy cards etc (IMO). I think GW would get a lot more interest in their warzone books if they started to provide regular 40k formations. Yes thank you, sorry this project was taken on with delirium achieved through no sleep in 24 hours. Since SW's have no formations of their own I do NOT want to include them here for what brother Valerian was starting to get at below. Including Allied detachments would simply be too big in scope and I would simply like to keep this limited to what is available to the SW: Codex. I will edit my main post to indicate this. Terrific idea for a thread, Fytharin; well done! How would you like to establish the boundaries for this effort, though? Do you only want to include everything that we have access to? I would recommend that it be limited to only those units that we can include without having to incorporate an Allied Detachment, because if we include allied units, too, then the scope will be too large to be realistically managed. V Thanks! ~ and read above. ;) Was already thinking that around 11 last night before I passed out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3712388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Isnt Cypher a DA Fallen? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3712482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Isnt Cypher a DA Fallen? Maybe....maybe not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3712545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Isnt Cypher a DA Fallen? Maybe....maybe not. so if he is how is that SW then? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3712686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Isnt Cypher a DA Fallen? Maybe....maybe not. so if he is how is that SW then? He's an...independent figure in the 40k universe, and his rules as written in the data-slate are such that basically anyone can take him. So, much like the Stormwing Formation (another data-slate), he can be included in our army, and he doesn't count as allied either. He's just along for the ride, as it were. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3712793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 So the stormwing formation is available to us as a non-allied data-slate? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3712798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 So the stormwing formation is available to us as a non-allied data-slate? As far as I can tell, that's correct. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3712804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 LOL, bring Cypher to troll our Dark Angels allies. As far as I'm concern, he is a loyalist in disguise. Perhaps Logan knows the DA dirty secret and employs Cypher occasionally for lulz. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292159-compiling-a-space-wolves-library/#findComment-3712911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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