Armond Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 So, I am working on Star Phantoms in my WIP thread as well. Buuuuut, I am bitten by the HH bug. Yes, I have NLs which I am working on, however, I need an opposing force. I am trying to make a decision, and it isn't all too easy. I have narrowed myself down to two choices... First up: Blood Angels focusing specifically on the Flesh Tearer side of things. So a predominately red scheme with black as the major accent. Probably stick with a gold as the metal, but still up for debate. I like the blood thirsty side of things, which is why I chose Flesh Tearers as a sub-theme... The main focus of the force? Assault based(more than likely) with some Fast Attack options such as jetbikes or jump troops. I would also use some Destroyers because if anyone in a Blood Angels force would use it, it would be the Flesh Tearer's old Company. Second up: Raven Guard... Focusing on a force that specializes in void warfare and ship-to-ship battles. Not saying they wouldn't be proficient in surface warfare and could be deployed as such, but ya know. Sub-theme? Oh I don't know, Charcarodons?! I mean they are suspect of being of Raven Guard stock, so why not? I could keep it subtle to a certain extent. I have a Breacher Squad who is screaming to be assembled and done up as some brutal void fighters... I could also justify using Destroyers in an army like that as well. And I think the Caestus Assault Ramp would work well here. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Maybe BA should be switched with DA ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3712768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 Oh yah? Why is that? Not enough DA representation? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3712770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Yeah plus I don't want to be upstaged on the BA front :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3712771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromancer Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 That is true! I like the flesh tearers idea, but you may want to be cautious about that. I feel like when the BA book is released everyone and their mother's will want to do the 5th company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3712773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 LOL, I doubt I could upstage you! I am heavily considering both though! Just a matter of which will win me over! Pyro I am definitely worried about that. I may just go with the RG one, I have some MK VI pieces(beakie heads) along with the Breachers... I could start with just a unit of 10 Breachers and a Centurion of sorts. Throw some nice references to sharks onto the shoulder pads and other surface areas, especially the shields. The RGs would be post Istvaan, and so would be surely angry and especially brutal. Such a hard decision! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3712779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Iron Warriors. Duh. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3712780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Oh yah? Why is that? Not enough DA representation? In fairness, it would be fluffy since you also have NLs. Thramas Crusade, Lion vs Kurze at Tsagualsa, battles aboard the Invincible Reason and Nightfall, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3712790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 I am just not a fan of the DAs, I hate to say that. They just don't scream, "pick me, pick me!" I may come around to them, I have a little time to decide! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3712823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 The idea of a Raven Guard company that specializes in boarding and naval actions appeals to me, and Forge World goes to great lengths to connect the XIX Legion with the Space Sharks. I say go for it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3712867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 If I can write a little fluff that works with them, I will see how I feel. Maybe a company out on the Eastern Fringes conducting operations for the Emperor, receiving an all-call to Raven Guard forces to be aware of the a traitor Legions and to make speed back to meet with their Primarch. Along the way they encounter said forces in the form of my Night Lords and a few other companies; then a series of naval engagements including boarding actions occur? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3712894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Though I like Cormac's idea, I really think the Blood Angels would be stunning. Their colors, aesthetics, even their legion symbol, are such polar opposites of the Night Lords, those two forces on the table fighting each other would be amazing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3712898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Is this coz of the murder duel thing? Jeez you challenge one guy and he defects to another legion, best go challenge chickenleg for his mad paintskillz :p I concur with carchadoron Raven Guard, will be cool as funk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3712901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 Though I like Cormac's idea, I really think the Blood Angels would be stunning. Their colors, aesthetics, even their legion symbol, are such polar opposites of the Night Lords, those two forces on the table fighting each other would be amazing. Ugh, I was starting to get a bit anxious to do the RG idea actually. But you are right in another aspect, the chance to do a polar opposite, or at least a completely different scheme would look great on the table. But... Nolann watched as the loyal sons of Sanguinius swooped down on the Night Lords, as hawks attacking crows, scattering them to the winds. Assault squads, bearing the ivory winged blood drop upon their shoulders poured from the entrances of the basilica's walls. Wielding chainswords or power weapons in one hand and bolt pistols in the other, they crashed into the ranks of the daemonic soldiers, pushing back the wave of attackers. The recent actions in the Signus Crusade, still fresh on the minds of the betrayed IX Legion, prepared them for dealing with the likes of daemon spawn. But their fury was not reserved for just the warp borne fiends, their rage extended to the VIII and XVII Legion, they cut all down within their reach. The unplanned arrival of the IX turned the tide, and the traitors found themselves on the back foot. The Night Lords fell back before the surge of reinforcements could reach the majority of their forces, the Word Bearers shouldering the majority of the casualties. Is this coz of the murder duel thing? Jeez you challenge one guy and he defects to another legion, best go challenge chickenleg for his mad paintskillz I concur with carchadoron Raven Guard, will be cool as funk I dunno what you mean. Was there a murder duel? I think I thought it was directed at someone else! Holy cow I need to go back and read it! I may just go ahead and do some of both. A centurion and breacher squad of RG. Then maybe do an Assault Squad and Centurion of BAs to see how I feel afterwards. Ugh, so much to decide! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3712919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I have been thinking the exact same thing. Once my WE are done I want to do a smaller Loyalist army. Like yourself I have been torn between the Blood Angles and Raven Guard. For me the Blood Angles are controlled rage, plus they have a nice aesthetic. The Raven Guard, will be so different from my World Eaters. Infiltration, flyers, a controlled strike, compared to the World Eaters mass violence. So I have gone with the Ravens. For you, I would say the Blood Angles. They are different in style to the Night Lords, who share some qualities with the Raven Guard. The red will be striking opposite the Night Lords Dark Blue, and you can build a different style army to your current one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3712963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Both would work - a joint taskforce perhaps - or a lucky moment where a RG predation fleet happens upon a planet where your 5th company taskforce is outgunned, out numbered and fighting to the death? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3712964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Iron Hands? That's a great idea Armond, welcome to the fold! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3713060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Raven Guard! GLORY TO THE XIX!!! As slow as I was when I had more free time, the season is in full swing at my job, and so I'll be lucky to pump any RG for a bit. I'd love to see more of them in the good ol' HH forum! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3713456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 Argh maybe I will do both, any ideas on a campaign the two would have worked together on? I looked at some products and had placed the following into my shopping cart. Blood Angels: -Etched Brass for both Blood Angels and Flesh Tearers -MK IV Assault Squad w/jump packs -MK IV Destroyer Squad w/jump packs *I have 6 Jetbikes already, I may use three for the Night Lords, and the leftover three for the BAs Raven Guard: -Tartaros Pattern Terminator Squad -Tartaros Pattern Power Fist set *I have 10 Breacher Marines already and some MKVI pieces lying around Both: I have plenty of stuff from Dark Vengeance, Sternguard bits, troop bits, and plenty of FW single bits to make a Centurion for either probably. Maybe I should start there? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3713467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TearsOfTheRaven Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I would say yes, start by doing the Centuroins. And then do which ever one felt the best/most fun to build and paint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3713708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 I am thinking you have something there. But I think my decision is made: But who knows where my fickle feelings will take me! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3713835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Grrrrrrrr Now I have to return to my xiith Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3713947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 5th,co. BA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3713971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 XXXII Rapid Assault Choir, IX Legion, 42nd Expeditionary Fleet. Bound in Blood. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3713989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 I need to look some of that stuff up. I have no idea exactly what I want to do, but I do want it to be with the mindset of Flesh Tearers. But I think I want to move in the direction of Void warfare specialists. I still want to use my Breachers for them probably. Any thoughts in regards to that direction? Would the 5th Company have void warfare specialists in their ranks? Jaspcat, you don't have to do that, I doubt I will be held in the same regard as yourself when it comes to the Blood Angels. deathspectresgt7, I have a mind to go that route. Stop tempting me! 1000heathens, where did you get that from? We need to collaborate or something. We NEED to get a game in, I have over 2k assembled now. Over half of it is painted, the other half is in vow ready state! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292207-some-help-on-a-decision/#findComment-3714012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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