Captain Juan Juarez Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 So I've decided to take the plunge and model a force of squishy Guardsmen that I am assured will grow and grow with no end in sight! All of my decisions will be based purely on modelling and painting criteria and I do not ever envision anything I make ever seeing the table top, so please bear that in mind with any comments or criticisms that you have. Also, be aware I am expecting glacial progress from myself; if I take a week to finish modelling and/or painting a single mini don't be surprised! Now, my first decision is which unit do I want to start with and what sort of theme do I want to go for as I want it to be unified but diverse when I am finally done with everything - though WarriorFish has assured me I will not stop at a small force at any point. My initial idea was to borrow an idea from the Roman Legions of old in terms of terminology and composition, so that instead of Companies I would name them Cohorts, with the First Cohort of the force being double the size and consisting of veterans. Now, to this end I took a look at GWs website for ideas for units and I am so far thinking of using the following: Cadians as "standard" troopers Steel Legion as "hazardous warfare" troopers Catachans as commandos Tempestus Scions as veterans As you can see, I want to include almost everything eventually and I don't have small dreams! So I seek opinions about the best unit to start with; my own feeling leads towards the Scions because they look so damn cool or should I perhaps go totally out of the above laid out box and try something like a Leman Russ? I intend to order something tonight, so help a brother out! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292246-a-regiment-is-born/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I would start with standard troopers to get a feel for the models. Just my .02 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292246-a-regiment-is-born/#findComment-3713526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 you could use those models and say it's one regiment that uses so many uniforms, or, you could do what happens to all depleted regiments...which is being colsolidated to 1 fight-worthy regiment again. sometimes this goes fluidly, other times it turns out to be a complete disaster. none the less it can make for a very interesting force! if that's not what you want perhaps a more unified army can be obtained by forgeworld (which can be found pretty cheap on ebay and other websites btw) as they too offer hazard environment models. a start can be to decide on what pattern of armour your force will be equiped with. the most common will be flak armour, followed by carapace armour. all of these can be represented in a multitude of ways, followed by a colour sheme. note that vehicles and troops don't need the same colour sheme, nor do all vehicles. the infantry could perfectly well be steel legion armoured fist squads in their typical armageddon pattern camo while the leman russes are belonging to the valhallan 314th.... such is the liberty of the imperial guard that it's in my opinion the most interesting faction to work with! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292246-a-regiment-is-born/#findComment-3713567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I knew you'd make the right decision - because it was the obvious choice! :D I agree with Teetengee, start with the basic trooper as everything starts from there. Get their colour scheme down and you'll find the other versions easier to do :) I understand the temptation to run off and stock up on tanks but the core of infantry is always the first port of call! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292246-a-regiment-is-born/#findComment-3713580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 Oh there is going to be no stocking up - my finances can't take that yet. My intention will be to have pretty much the same uniform for every unit of infantry, with the exception of Catachans/Commandos, so technically they will all tie in as one regiment or family of regiments. My heart says go for the Scions - awesomeness noted above - but I should be sensible, so: Have now placed my order and gone for a Cadian Command Squad with a regular infantry squad too - genuinely excited to receive them and take my first look at what is ahead of me! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292246-a-regiment-is-born/#findComment-3713595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 That's awesome, dude. I can't wait to see the fluff that you write up for them. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292246-a-regiment-is-born/#findComment-3713712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 The CS box is a great kit, full of lots of cool bits that will serve you well :) Have you decided on a colour scheme yet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292246-a-regiment-is-born/#findComment-3713772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionofjudah Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I'm a big fan of the combined uniform foundation myself;). As your army expands you can take your pic of other manufacturers as well to spice up your collection- maxmini, Victoria lamb, puppetswar, forge world and kromlech all are represented in my army. Variety is the spice of life in my book and I enjoy a regimented paint scheme on a broad spectrum of clothing. Have fun with the guard, be ready to pull them off the table in handfuls and roll dice by the bucketload. Remember your orders(I generally forget mine;) Flamers and grenade launchers are your friend. Templates of boom!!!! Welcome aboard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292246-a-regiment-is-born/#findComment-3713806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sox Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I started the same way... and I will not look back. It's a fun army to build and paint so far. As for playing, I doubt I'll play anytime soon, but, like you, I mostly enjoy the hobby painting and building models. There are so many fun bits in each of the boxes you ordered. Hopefully you will have fun and enjoy your time with them! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292246-a-regiment-is-born/#findComment-3713950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 That's awesome, dude. I can't wait to see the fluff that you write up for them. I'm planning, at least until something better hits me, to use the family of Regiments that I created in fluff but never did anything with - the Batavians. I plan on calling the whole project Task Force Forward Unto Dawn* (AX17-01D) with elements from some of my favoured Batavian sons: 7th Batavian (Light) Infantry "The Pathfinders" - will be the (Catachan) Commandos and will feature some air power (eventually) 33rd Batavian Infantry - basic Cadians and eventually a single Cohort of Harazardous Warfare (Steel Legion) troops 10th Batavian Armoured - tanks, lots and lots of tanks (eventually) *nothing to do with the film but i just can't get the phrase out of my head! The CS box is a great kit, full of lots of cool bits that will serve you well Have you decided on a colour scheme yet? Bearing in mind I haven't looked at paint colours or names in many moons, the scheme that sprang to mind is actually one I saw on an old Mordian army from something like a decade ago. I'll see if I can find some pictures online for it later but basically dark grey with a light (ice) blue as its secondary colour - although I believe that has sort of been usurped by the Valhallans now from images I've seen! I started the same way... and I will not look back. It's a fun army to build and paint so far. As for playing, I doubt I'll play anytime soon, but, like you, I mostly enjoy the hobby painting and building models. There are so many fun bits in each of the boxes you ordered. Hopefully you will have fun and enjoy your time with them! I am actually looking forward to seeing what extras, aside from the required elements, there are in the boxes as from my days of building Marines I know it was difficult to get some of the good bits without either buying a whole new box of something or hunting down the specific part on eBay! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292246-a-regiment-is-born/#findComment-3714156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Sounds good! Catachans are cool but sadly their infantry box is ancient and it shows :( The CS box is once again amazing though, full of bits that I think you'll find useful for your light infantry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292246-a-regiment-is-born/#findComment-3714186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 So my order was dispatched yesterday and my excitement is steadily growing; delivery estimate is 3-5 days so I'm hoping I can get them by Saturday and then enjoy my Sunday and Monday off work to have a go! Until that point though, I decided I wanted to do something and have decided to prepare some fluff! Although, unlike my initial premise, I have decided against using my pre-fluffed Batavians and dream up an entirely new force which my arriving boxes will be the beginning of. Cookies if anyone recognises the, obvious, borrowing of names but I consider it a homage (plus it just sounds cool): 3rd Cheme Legion (Infantry) The 3rd Cheme Legion are an old regiment of the Guard, dating back to the original founding on the feudal world of Cheme and have the unique honour amongst all of the Cheme Legions of never having been reconstituted following destruction. Though millions of soldiers have passed through their ranks since their founding, the 3rd Cheme have an unbroken line of service back to that founding and there is an immense pride in that honour. First Cohort "The Reavers" First Cohort, 3rd Legion, is a veteran Cohort that has two unique characteristics; it is a double-strength formation and is the only element of the Legion that is air-mobile. Second Cohort Second Cohort is a basic Infantry Cohort with a Light Infantry Platoon embedded. Third Cohort Third Cohort is a basic Infantry Cohort with a Light Infantry Platoon embedded. Fourth Cohort Fourth Cohort is comprised of the Legions support elements, including anti-tank and anti-aircraft formations. Fifth Cohort Fifth Cohort comprises the Armoured (Infantry) formation of the Legion, including their Reconnaissance element. All in all the 3rd Cheme Legion is a self-sufficient force that is comfortable in a variety of situation and can handle anything short of a full armour war. Very basic fluff above but that will form the basis for the force I want to put together. As I start to put stuff together I'll put up pictures and some fluff about squads and characters! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292246-a-regiment-is-born/#findComment-3715724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I have a theory that almost every Astartes commander also wants a guard force, I know I do! Very cooln ideas, though the title made me think you were doing this; http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Savlar_Chem_Dogs#.U5k1APmSySo Im thinking of stripping my Vraks forces and repainting them along with some hazardous terrain kits from FW as the Dogs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292246-a-regiment-is-born/#findComment-3716346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 I have a theory that almost every Astartes commander also wants a guard force, I know I do! Very cooln ideas, though the title made me think you were doing this; http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Savlar_Chem_Dogs#.U5k1APmSySo Im thinking of stripping my Vraks forces and repainting them along with some hazardous terrain kits from FW as the Dogs. I loved the Chem-Dogs when GW first released info about them in a WD article in days of yore but gods forbid I'd ever try to make my own at this stage! Although with the FW respirators now it might not be quite as hard as previously... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292246-a-regiment-is-born/#findComment-3716569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Cool, I hope to see your work soon :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292246-a-regiment-is-born/#findComment-3717539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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