Theredknight Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I'm buying some Phoenix guard instead of standard tartoros termys, and they obviously come as standard with spears. Looking into the blades rules, I can give them Phoenix power spears for a fairly cheap amount. Given their high I value and the fact you can take 10 who will be cheaper than Phoenix guard, is it worth equipping 5-8 with spears, as the ap2 on the smash, they will be an even more dangerous unit being podded in a kharbydis with some tactical wound takers? What do you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I guess the potential is there - but iirc. (at work so can't referrenc the books) the spear becomes AP4 after the initial charge, due to the current Power Spear rules (however this may be different for the Phoenix Spear) - I think if done right it could cause mass carnage and also take a LOT of heat away from other parts of your force - used alone without support however and it's an expensive suicide squad... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-3714283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Phoenix Spears are not standard spear-shaped power weapons, so they use their own rules and not those out of the BRB. So they're still AP3 in subsequent rounds of combat. I think you have things wrong, however. Palatine Blades can take normal power lances - not Phoenix Spears. Phoenix Spears are only available to EC characters that have access to a power fist. Maybe this has changed in the Crusade book and I'm unaware of it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-3714337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 It says in their rules that it's +1S AP2 on the charge and AP3 on subsequent rounds Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-3714359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Phoenix Spears are not standard spear-shaped power weapons, so they use their own rules and not those out of the BRB. So they're still AP3 in subsequent rounds of combat. I think you have things wrong, however. Palatine Blades can take normal power lances - not Phoenix Spears. Phoenix Spears are only available to EC characters that have access to a power fist. Maybe this has changed in the Crusade book and I'm unaware of it? The FAQ allows Palatine Blades to take Phoenix Spears and increase the squad size to 10. I'd probably keep the spears to 3-4 per unit. I've had the same idea of using the PG as regular Terminators, the PG just seem to lack versatility but the models are brilliant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-3714363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Yes this is in the istvaan campaign legions book. Ap2 +1s on the charge is painful..especially if one were to put eidolon leading them..thunder hammer attacks that aren't unwieldy on the charge?yes please!! Pg I'd use in larger battles, simply because they are a threat unit. When you mention Phoenix guard to opponents they fear them..even though they might not be that good lol And as you say the models are stunning! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-3714370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Cheers for the correction gents - whilst I won't be using them I can't wait to get the models, plus Fulgrim and some Palatine Blades for my diorama/s :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-3714407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Wonder if this is some insight as to what the Wolves will have on their Wolf Guard with "harpoons". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-3714969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/ben_fabz/Mobile%20Uploads/35CBBF46-97DD-45E4-A825-F3E9C1161624.png Whilst in on the subject, what colour do you think that is..a medium grey? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-3714973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telhdrat Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 You mean on the armour? If so I think that's supposed to be platinum. It mentions that in the accompanying text. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-3714997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Ahhh I wondered, it doesn't really look platinum colour..does it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-3714998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Yeah, it's platinum. Members of the Palatine Blades used it as an honour marking and as a symbol of their membership. The description of the image says that its platinum. I guess it's a pretty difficult colour to reproduce in print. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-3714999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Yeah I was wondering what kind of paints I'd use I mean, sorry, should have been a bit clearer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-3715001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Yeah I was wondering what kind of paints I'd use I mean, sorry, should have been a bit clearer I'd probably go with either Iron Breaker or Runefang Steel and keep it very 'flat' (ie. no highlighting or shading). You could also search the interwebs for a platinum paint. This is the best I could find http://privateerpress.com/content/radiant-platinum Personally I think it's a bit too 'warm' in colour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-3715071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
billpeacock Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Phoenix Spears are not standard spear-shaped power weapons, so they use their own rules and not those out of the BRB. So they're still AP3 in subsequent rounds of combat. I think you have things wrong, however. Palatine Blades can take normal power lances - not Phoenix Spears. Phoenix Spears are only available to EC characters that have access to a power fist. Maybe this has changed in the Crusade book and I'm unaware of it? The FAQ allows Palatine Blades to take Phoenix Spears and increase the squad size to 10. I'd probably keep the spears to 3-4 per unit. I've had the same idea of using the PG as regular Terminators, the PG just seem to lack versatility but the models are brilliant. do you have a link for the FAQ, couldn't seem to find it anywhere Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-4206743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 It's in book 2 I think mate. Or in the istvaan campaign legions book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-4206748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Its in LAICL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-4206758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 And in the FW website downloads sectionhttp://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AT/Downloads#horusheresy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-4206771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The faq for download doesn't have it but it's definitely in the red book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292272-palatine-blades-and-phoenix-power-spears/#findComment-4241696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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