WarSpirit Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Didn't see anyone posting on this so sorry in advance if it as already been asked, but how does Khârn's Deny the Witch works in 7 ? Do you still deny with one dice on a 2+ or each dice you roll needs only a 2+ instead of a 6 to deny ? Thanks in advance guys ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292295-kh%C3%A2rn-and-deny-the-witch-in-7th/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 welcome to 7th edition. No one knows what GW intends, its all a clusterfrak and they dont care Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292295-kh%C3%A2rn-and-deny-the-witch-in-7th/#findComment-3715131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I'd say Force is always nullfied against Khârn, and witch fires and maladictions against him and his unit are denied on a 2+, where as blessings are denied on a 6+We run with the thought that if you rolled 2 dice for a ML1 power and I deny 1, it still goes thorough, But if you roll 2 dice for a ML2 power and I deny one, it does not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292295-kh%C3%A2rn-and-deny-the-witch-in-7th/#findComment-3715142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Wade Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I wonder how Khârn's "always hitting on 2+" works against invisibility, FAQs says nothing about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292295-kh%C3%A2rn-and-deny-the-witch-in-7th/#findComment-3715157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Khârn passes his Deny the Witch rolls (not tests) on a 2+. This means you still need to roll at least as many successes as your opponent; only that yours pass on a 2+ rather than a 6, as long as the power targets Khârn or his unit. (If the rule had said that he passes DTW tests on a 2+, you'd just need to roll one dice.) Force isn't nullified against him as such. He just ignores the Instant Death part of the rule, but other models in his unit will be affected by it. As for Invisibility, you have two rules that conflict, so the more advanced rule (i.e. the Codex rule) takes precedence. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292295-kh%C3%A2rn-and-deny-the-witch-in-7th/#findComment-3715412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Cheexsta's take is how I read it. Also tends to make Khârn really attractive this edition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292295-kh%C3%A2rn-and-deny-the-witch-in-7th/#findComment-3715720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarSpirit Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 Thanks guys, it bring some light into this. But i do wonder indeed about the jkharn always it on 2+ versus invisibility. Well hoping that GW would have fixed important issues in a FAQ was stupid as always :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292295-kh%C3%A2rn-and-deny-the-witch-in-7th/#findComment-3716034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Just remember, Khârn doesn't miss. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292295-kh%C3%A2rn-and-deny-the-witch-in-7th/#findComment-3716096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 It'd be 2+, as a codex is considered more 'advanced' than the rulebook, so any rules conflicts go with the codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292295-kh%C3%A2rn-and-deny-the-witch-in-7th/#findComment-3716626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 It brings the point that khorne should get more dtw like Sisters do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292295-kh%C3%A2rn-and-deny-the-witch-in-7th/#findComment-3717121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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