Ishagu Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Obviously psychic powers can be very useful... Have the costs been amended in the new books? Is a mastery level 3 Libby still 135 or did they drop him to 115? Also... what models have you guys used to convert one? There are no psychic hoods in this era... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292371-anyone-here-use-a-librarian-in-their-30k-list/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabbas Sogalon Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Got two of them. One is a Thousand Sons made from the plastic librarian and a few pieces I had lying around. The other is an old Dusk Raider champion who uses his powers in secret, so he has a more swordsman look. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292371-anyone-here-use-a-librarian-in-their-30k-list/#findComment-3716703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millicant Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 HH:LACAL removes the option for a level 3 psyker. Max librarian is level 2, from Centurion Consul-librarian anyways. Can be pretty handy though, especially for the Word Bearers... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292371-anyone-here-use-a-librarian-in-their-30k-list/#findComment-3716708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 Ahhh, fair enough. I always though a level 3 Libby was very expensive anyways... I'm just looking around online for various options. Did they have differently coloured power armour during the heresy days? Eg: Libbys tend to be blue in 40k... ...Errr, can the 30k Librarians also summon Deamons? My copy of Betrayal says they can pick a single discipline from the rulebook. I assume this hasn't been changed? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292371-anyone-here-use-a-librarian-in-their-30k-list/#findComment-3716711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgermeister Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 im sure we're still waiting out on the FAQ on a lot of this. Im pretty sure it will say that loyalist legions cant summon daemons though! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292371-anyone-here-use-a-librarian-in-their-30k-list/#findComment-3716795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Does Calas Typhon count ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292371-anyone-here-use-a-librarian-in-their-30k-list/#findComment-3716836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millicant Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I would assume that only word bearers with the corresponding rite of war could summon daemons. That's how I would play it anyways... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292371-anyone-here-use-a-librarian-in-their-30k-list/#findComment-3716896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 There are no daemons in 30k. The Emperor himself said so, and he was never wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292371-anyone-here-use-a-librarian-in-their-30k-list/#findComment-3717454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 if anything I'd limit Malefic Daemonology powers to WB Libbys, Magnus and maybe Ahriman? Until after Prospero Burns. After that the gloves are off. While Sanctic Daemonology would be fine - although I'm not sure on how much use you'd get out of Banishment if we use the aforementioned limitations on daemonology since you won't be encountering too many demons. Other than that, the rest of the Psy powers should be just fine. But, on topic now, since psykers are rarely "out of the closet" about their powers (Typhon, among others) I doubt you'd be running into many in 30k games and really wouldn't have that much of a hard time getting your powers off, though it would still be possible to get denied. Imagine Prescience'd 20 man Legion Blob squads with Imperial Fists Legion rules (+1BS for bolter weapons)! if anything I'd run one just for that. Although I still vote on nerfing Invisibility - Its just too good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292371-anyone-here-use-a-librarian-in-their-30k-list/#findComment-3717462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Ive used Librarians a LOT in 6th, usually a couple of Lvl2s with veteran squads using Divination and they were extremely badass :D Since the Alpha Legion extras ive only rolled them out once and they mostly got blown up (Seems folks remember good units :D ).Regards the new Disciplines, no reason you cant use them, though id question your choice of legion if you badly want to summon daemons with loyalists, come to the dark side, we have cookies! ;) Though desperate times call for desperate measures... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292371-anyone-here-use-a-librarian-in-their-30k-list/#findComment-3717679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoros Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I can't see them banning them just for loyalist Legions - it'll be either "Thousand Sons and Word Bearers only", or they'll be available to everyone. FW have been pushing the "loyalist traitors and traitorous loyalists" angle, after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292371-anyone-here-use-a-librarian-in-their-30k-list/#findComment-3717791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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