Raulmichile Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 After reading once more the new shooting phase I noticed there is no focused fire any more. Am I correct? So if I shoot at an enemy unit which has 20 guys basically out in the open but it happens to be that the one closest enemy model is behind 4+ cover save it means that as long as this guy survives every shot the whole unit is efectively behind cover against that specific unit unit of mine? Mmmmmhhhh..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292402-focused-fire-in-7th-ed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 It is kinda dumb, but yes, the closest model's cover save is the only one that has any effect on the game, and you can no longer just ignore the one or two in cover. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292402-focused-fire-in-7th-ed/#findComment-3717434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 By the same token, one flamer opens that whole unit to a world of pain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292402-focused-fire-in-7th-ed/#findComment-3717436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 By the same token, one flamer opens that whole unit to a world of pain.Hasn't that alsways been the case? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292402-focused-fire-in-7th-ed/#findComment-3717460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I'm feeling the loss of this, it was very useful to be able to target specific models by cover. Such is life though, not like the Guard can't muster enough fire power to blast entire squads away ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292402-focused-fire-in-7th-ed/#findComment-3717562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Fire On My Target, Guardsmen. Fire On My Target. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292402-focused-fire-in-7th-ed/#findComment-3717594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Fire on my target, or LOS-block the models in cover. Now they're not valid targets, you can't kill them, but you deny cover to the ones in the open! No? I've only had two games of 7th, and those with people who don't own the book, so we may have been doing it wrong... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292402-focused-fire-in-7th-ed/#findComment-3717711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raulmichile Posted June 13, 2014 Author Share Posted June 13, 2014 Its kinda weird that the designers gave more detail to how to shoot but simplified how to save. Now you have to think the order in which models will shoot within a unit but you can not any more pick who to shoot at (regarding cover obviously). It's a bit contradictory to me. I accept this will not be very frequent but this rule can be exploited by beardy players. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292402-focused-fire-in-7th-ed/#findComment-3717763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoqqu Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 This is slightly offtopic but is related to shooting. Had a game where I used blob of 50 guardsmen with Yarrick. Heavy fire and guardsmen die, I had placed Yarrick in the frontline (live and learn) so eventually he was the closest model. Opponent shoots at blob, wounds were rolled according to the majority T3 (Yarrick has T4), nearest models are removed as casualties and Yarrick ends as closest, he was allowed 2+ look out sir! rolls but still had to roll some 4+ saves and lost a wound. Questions: Should the shots be done against Yarricks T4 or with the T3 which was majority in the unit? If with majority, can the wounds be allocated to Yarrick or will they skip him and move onto guardsmen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292402-focused-fire-in-7th-ed/#findComment-3718067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 They are rolled on Majority Toughness of 3, and Yarrick cannot dodge them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292402-focused-fire-in-7th-ed/#findComment-3718079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andhil Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 20 guys? Sounds like a job for the Wyvern! To be absolutely honest, I hardly ever used Focused Fire. Like Warriorfish said: We've got the weight of fire to deal with any units regardless of cover, so why lengthen my already very, very, very long shooting phase? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292402-focused-fire-in-7th-ed/#findComment-3718245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 The cure to all problems. Enemy has good armour saves? - volume of fire. Enemy has cover? - volume of fire. Young son keeps missing the toilet bowl? - volume of fire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292402-focused-fire-in-7th-ed/#findComment-3718262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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