ZONKEY Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 I have read he would loose himself to the nails I hope they produce a pre Horus heresy novel about angron gladiator exploits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Just a general question I have been wondering but why did the emperor resort to kidnapping angron rather than using his legions to save him? IMO the Emperor's biggest folly was the mis-handling of his Sons. There's no way Angron would have just went packing with Dad. And as a result Angron lost all respect for Dad. Plus there's the whole 'not fitting in and wanting to kill half your brothers', but that's for Doctor Phil to figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 If I'm remembering "The Outcast Dead" correctly, one of the surviving thunder warriors who appeared in the novel, their former commander, made a comment to the effect that the Emperor actually arranged to gather all the thunder warriors who had survived the wars of unification, and had them killed. There's more on it in this thread, from when the book was released a couple years ago. He ordered them terminated. One of the fw books refrences War hounds engaging Thunder Warriors, and the latter proving to be able to kill around four for every tw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Within Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 The Emperor is utterly ruthless at times and uncaring on individual scales. He has watched trillions upon trillions of humans die at their own hands; it is not that he does not care on an individual level, he cannot, for reasons of sanity. Ol Personn discussed that, as well as John Grammaticus (other perpetuals). It's taken the perpetuals among the Cabal hundreds/thousands of years to realize what they are doing is wrong. Oll is the only Perpetual with true humanity left in him and he tries to bury it IMO for the sake of his sanity. Now on that scale. Nuceria (the planet Angron is from) is a productive, vibrant and prosperous world that will put a valuable contribution to the Imperium, there will need to be a purge of those undesirable traits in it's society, but that's the same as any planet. The Gladiators are mad barely human creatures that are wanting to completely destroy the planet. Angron is worth far more than the planet itself, but his gladiators are worthless. Corax's slaves are good genetic stock, young children amoung them perfect for induction into the legion, whereas the masters are mad tech worshipping lunatics that are better replaced with the slaves. That's the difference, the gladiators are by existing destroying a valuable resource, the slaves of Deliverance are themselves a resource. When Angron returns to Nuceria it is a loyal productive world of the Imperium. ALTERNATE The big E was having a crappy day and then this stupid child he rescues goes on and on about leaving his idiot friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZONKEY Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 And the emperor ignored for a while how angron was taking the worlds via brutal force and leaving none alive and he must of been concerned when angron just flat out ignored his requests to halt the implanting of nails in his marines skulls and his methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Cato Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I feel like the Big E might have been a bit embarrassed of his son too. Hes found the others as planetary rulers or in the finally stages of conquering their adoptive homeworld. The cream of the crop awesomeness in their respective sectors. Then he finds Angron and his rag-tag bunch of slave-gladiators getting curbstomped by a handful of backwater militia. Thats enough to ruffle anyones feathers. Best to beam up the wayward son and forget thsi ever happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZONKEY Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 Not even the emperor can remove this back water planets technoly from angrons skull, I think angron was the rebel primarch without a cause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qyntius Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Like the others said, the high riders were more valueable to the empire, but I also read something about Angron angering the Emperor by declining his proposition to lead the warhounds. Furthermore Angron did not want to win the fight on his home planet, he wanted to die a warrior next to his brothers and sisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Because spartacus' rebellion failed elaborating for those who dont get the joke. Because Angrons back story is basically lifted from the history of spartacus he was forever doomed to failure. the authors were never going to have him win otherwise they would have chosen a different story to base him upon all those years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinoDoc Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 The question I have is after determining what the nails were doing to him and the impossibility of removal, why not just put a bullet in Angron's brain? The War Hounds would have been better off for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Angron was a Primarch, built to lead and kill. The War Hounds were brutal and specialized in slaughteing enemies out of requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZONKEY Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 As I am reading betrayer angron reminds me more and more of a ork warlord than a primarch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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