badgermeister Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 it was watching you play on the board in the games room at the first HH weekender that prompted me to pick one up. so much more depends on how your squads do that its so much more intense when you roll the dice and the fact that it plays quicker is that it keeps the pace going. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3722268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 It's a massive outlay and most people can with a bit of effort and time can make something just as good as the FW boards. You don't need the sculpting skills that is needed for sculpting little men in 28mm scale. Just a good eye for random interesting bits. For example the fan unit on my boiler went last winter. When it was replaced I retained it as it looks like a piece of industrial machinery when you stick a 28mm model next to it. So many piece of scenery that you see in the old WD's was made this way and quite a lot of the display pieces you see also have origins in someone spotting an interesting piece of pipe or other bits and bobs. Who's up for a build an original ZM board challenge? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3722318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 A new board, eh? Warp anomaly detected... vessel entering realspace... unidentified vessel, prepare to be boarded! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3722580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I've played on ZM boards a couple of times now, and it's insane how much it adds to the atmosphere of a game. I've asked Katie to grab me 8 tiles for my birthday in August, so we can have two tables on campaign weekends: one for planetary battles, one for boarding actions. My main HH tactic will likely be "Take lots of Castellax." You should really make a castellax with paragon of metal so that you can create the one from TFH that was attached to Argel Tal's unit. That would be fluff-tastic :D Oh and by the way, I read your blog the other day on your game with Greg and I just want to let you know that I laughed my ass off at the hilarious amount of team kill that went down. You are a Night Lord through and through. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3722631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Would dearly love to make my own ZM board. As SW1 said, you can detail it with all kinds of bitz and junk you accumulate Eyes the broken VCR in the corner Storage space is the problem for me. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3723188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Angel Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Count me in, I have been wanting to try and make one Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3723235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Count me in, I have been wanting to try and make one :D Gonna get the ETL out of the way and then I'll be working on my board. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3723305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgermeister Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 anyone run zone mortalis off the old space hulk board sets ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3723522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 anyone run zone mortalis off the old space hulk board sets ? No but that's a cracking idea. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3723528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Couldn't you make your own "counts as" ZM board using, say, Space Hulk and/or Warhammer Quest tiles? Edit: Obviously I should read the whole thread before posting :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3723532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 You guys are awesome. Looking forward to this. I was actually thinking of a zm board based in caverns to represent some under the surface action. Making that should be pretty easy I'd have thought. Lots of sand glue and oddly shaped polystyrene Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3725934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 You guys are awesome. Looking forward to this. I was actually thinking of a zm board based in caverns to represent some under the surface action. Making that should be pretty easy I'd have thought. Lots of sand glue and oddly shaped polystyrene Battles under Calth or in a space hulk. Would be pretty easy to do and could also the be used for d&d or other systems. I'm working on bits I can cast up in a modular system so they can be combined in different ways. Still at a very WIP/concept stage. Thinking of using foam board as the core to keep weight and cost down. Once it's got a load of resin cast bits glued on should be more rigid/tough than just using foamboard and building up with stock card or similar stuff. Also gives me the option to recess details as well. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3726082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm tempted to buy some tiles to use as a space ship. Like small foam tiles. Think that would work as a quick easy board? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3726131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm tempted to buy some tiles to use as a space ship. Like small foam tiles. Think that would work as a quick easy board? Could do. It's the little extra details like using repeated patterns that help change it from a few tiles to something that looks like actual decking in a spaceship. I'd look at modern ships corridors but then scale it up much bigger. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3726221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgermeister Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 chaps - check out stuff like this for laying on 12"x12" wooden tiles. Definite potential - perhaps he'll have some cheap off cuts as i imagine the sizes to purchase are way OTT. http://www.themeshcompany.com/products/Fine-Mesh---0.5mm---0.025mm-Hole-Size.html I have to be honest though - whenever i consider making something like this i weigh up whether the time expended vs doing overtime to buy the FW original is worthwhile. Its actually cheaper for me to do 1-2 extra days work a month than consume my time making them. Obviously if you thrive and enjoy the process then this doesnt apply but just my thoughts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3727707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 chaps - check out stuff like this for laying on 12"x12" wooden tiles. Definite potential - perhaps he'll have some cheap off cuts as i imagine the sizes to purchase are way OTT. http://www.themeshcompany.com/products/Fine-Mesh---0.5mm---0.025mm-Hole-Size.html I have to be honest though - whenever i consider making something like this i weigh up whether the time expended vs doing overtime to buy the FW original is worthwhile. Its actually cheaper for me to do 1-2 extra days work a month than consume my time making them. Obviously if you thrive and enjoy the process then this doesnt apply but just my thoughts. Must admit I am in agreement with regard to time spent compared to money spent - but having a look at this guys stuff can be got for as cheap as £2.99 for an A5 piece [http://www.themeshcompany.com/products/-16-Mesh---1.233mm-Aperture---0.355mm-Wire-Diameter---Mild-Steel-Plain-Steel---Woven-Wire-Mesh-143.html#SID=19] :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3727821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgermeister Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 on a plus side - its worth quite a bit on resale should you ever need the money back whereas your homegrown may not be so easy to sell :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3727863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyDreadnought Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 The main thing about Zone Mortalis that I absolutely love is that it completely flips list building on it's head. Everything that is a must-take in normal games suddenly might become less useful, whereas less useful things in regular games become amazingly useful. Weapons like the graviton gun/cannon or the flamer, things I wouldn't normally take get a whole new breath of fresh air in Mortalis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3728376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Keep having little ideas about doing a ZM board. Tomorrow I'm going to acquire a new pad to stick my ideas into before they all disappear when some new shiney project comes along. Lol ... I'm such a hobby butterfly! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3728538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I'm glad you like the board sketch. As seen on my blog, I felt so happy when I figured out the floor pattern of 2" squares of vents and metal plates. Imagine how stupid I felt when I realized most of the one-foot sections were sold at FW. D'oh! But I am happy I mapped the Games Day board. I'm thinking of getting enough empty FW boards for a 4' x 8' table Then I'll make my own walls and doors to randomize however I can. @Battle8rother: I'm looking forward to the Batrep. Work has killed both games that I had planned but I will figure a time to reschedule the games. I am exited but I have to admit I don't have much of a list for ZM Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3729021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaven Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Hi all, been lurking for a while and this thread seems as good a place as any to start posting. Although I have yet to play any ZM games I have plans of building my own boards. Mainly as I want them to be more generic than the FW tiles for use in both 30k games and for the Fall of Orpheus campaign elements that use the ZM rules set. For this I want something simpler,a more natural subterranean look. I plan on getting the materials to get started later on in the week so will post some pics as soon as going. As for playing ZM, I am using it as a starting point for at least 2 small Legion forces, starting with just 500 pts then expanding them to 1000 for both ZM and small scale city fight games. So far have a 500 pt World Eaters force, all still in the bags they came in. Urging myself to finish 3 chaos marine armies off before starting on more projects. Personally I think ZM offers a great way to start playing 30k with only a small force and am really looking forward to playing team games. Also if any of you still have your 5th edition rule book, toward the back where there are a couple of pages of example battlefields, the top of one of the left hand pages has a set up that I think is a Mechanicum complex, something along those lines could be the good beginnings of a ZM board using set pieces rather than tiles. Sorry but cant remember page number and the book is at a friends. Will keep you posted on progress with the boards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3732504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 @RedRaven: This one? I was thinking of these as exteriors for the board edge, but with some planning they'd make great interior walls. Maybe map an interior for something like this: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3754396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Has anyone tried the 500 point 2"x2" size game? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3754515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 If you mean a game on a 2'x2' table, then yes but it was with a 40k squad each (10 man Grey Hunter Pack vs 10 man Tactical Squad) rather than 500pts each. In imperial shorthand: " = inch ' = foot Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3754520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaven Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 @Archangel Page 228, it is under the title of Kill-Team Terrain, looking at it afresh it is not as full as I thought (only got the book back today, nice glimpse back in time). Though it looks like a simple enough table to emulate. Have started a tile based project with a friend (see WIP section, Fall of Orpheus ZM project). We thought of doing it as a collection of free-standing wall sections but are saving that for a different theme. With the Imperial Palace pic I think that is a good way of incorporating ZM game play into regular games of 40k, keeping it all on the same table but I like the idea of having a regular table top with several access points to a second subterranean table for ZM. -- forgot to mention, looking forward to getting the 2nd edition IA4 book to see how they have used the ZM rules for inside the bases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292417-any-30k-zone-mortalis-gamers/page/2/#findComment-3757321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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