jokaero weaponsmith Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Reread the short story Riven and as I can't reconcile the new iron hands fluff was thinking it would be a means to continue to a degree with the old fluff while been still in universe. My idea was Iron Hands as per Riven marines that have crossed the line and opened the Keys of Hel, to the greater imperium they have gone renegade. Yet none have or do ever succumb to the call of Khaos each and ever member has succumb to a greater calling, that of Iron. These Iron Hands operate as a small spaceborne chapter. They still bear black armour of the Iron Hands. They still bear the chapter symbol upon their left shoulder but forgo the clan symbols on their right instead the legion symbol of the X is present. Seeing themselves as the true sons of Ferrus and his legion. They still operate as clans just the clan symbol is not present in the same way. These Iron Hands are a thing of myth and legend only spoken about with hushed tones amongst the iron hands and successor chapters of the iron hands (possibly the clans of medusa) simply referred to as The Crossed, in reference to the the legion symbol and the act that members do in joining its ranks and the path of using the Keys of Hel The chapter is made up of the digital remnants of Isstavan "survivors". With fresh "blood" been supplied by the other Iron Hands and any successor chapters. These "recruits" are some of the most loyal and long serving of these chapters but the itch of bionics has grown greater than any chapter/clan would accept within their ranks. As a rite of passage these "recruits" their left bionic hand from their initiation into their clan into the very lava that transformed their Primarch. In doing so breaking the links to the old life and creating a bond with the new. I'm putting this up here as would appreciate my brethren's opinions and suggestions. I'm not trying to make a Mary Sue chapter just trying to reconciling and using the old fluff to a point while acknowledging new fluff by making use of the existing universe. It's also means that I wouldn't have to strip the few minis I have painted or create a complete new successor chapter. I'm a bit of a fluff bunny so just ignoring the supplement does not work for me . With you're help I'm hoping I can do this right and blur the lines a bit with the fluff to the point where was it the Raukaan Iron hands who stalked Contqual killing one in three of the survivors or The Crossed? I believed GW has muddy the waters enough to allow this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292561-riven-iron-hands/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messor Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 So are these Iron Hands stealing recruits from other Chapters? That sounds impossible, unless they are stealing from the recruitment worlds themselves. Or are the other Iron Hands successors supporting this "rogue" element? If so, why? My main question is why are they considered renegade? I've never heard of theses Keys of Hel which seem to be the hinging factor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292561-riven-iron-hands/#findComment-3722630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Messor: The Keys of Hel are forbidden technology that mechanically keeps you alive after suffering biological death. Not in a Dreadnought sort of way, but in a technologically necromancer sort of way. It features in a Horus Heresy short story, where a group of Isstvan survivors disregard the law laid down by their now dead Primarch in the pursuit of vengeance. This group, and others, are considered renegade by both sides. They don't care about loyalty to the Emperor, only about getting back at those who betrayed them. Jokaero Weaponsmith: I'm rather skeptical on the recruitment process as well, it might need some more deliberation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292561-riven-iron-hands/#findComment-3724116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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