Nakuth Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Alpha Legion linebreaker formation? Book 3 indicates an unorthodox use of Vindicators by the XXth during The (first) Battle of Paramar. They were half-loaded with shells to keep their weight light, and driven right up to point-blank range to targets before firing. It would certainly be a left-field siege army, but just think of it this way: infiltrating breacher squads. If any Legion could do it, it would be the XXth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3722150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I have been experimenting with mark IV breachers using the destroyer kit for the very purpose of Alpha Legion infiltrating breachers. Currently on hold as I need all my shields for the Xth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3722199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 ...Show-off. http://i.imgur.com/8IugbEY.gif But seriously, you highlighted perfectly why I love the HH setting so much better than 40k: nothing is set in stone yet as the galaxy spirals out of control in the greatest civil war mankind has(or will?) ever know. You can't point at any specific Legion and say they're all good or all bad. There's a billion shades of grey that exploded into being the moment the Emperor chose to make himself known and in each one is a different story to be told. The Heresy figures and rule books from Forge World are the biggest blank canvas that modelers will probably ever see in this setting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3722203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Angel Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 A breaching formation from the 9th. Perhaps make them Terran born that hate flying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3722219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Oooor.... considering how the IX Legion approach warfare, a Choir of Angels that have perfected the heat and crash of a boarding action. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3722225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Angel Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Their was a boarding action in fear to tread, maybe base it on that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3722233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I plan on making both scars and ba detachments to complement a friends fist legion hes making, together theyll form the defenders of terra. So I fully intend on having breacher ba's, holding the line. scars artillery pieces providing surpressing fire and a whole host of units that arent usually expected from those legions Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3722234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Must. Not. Consider. Doing. Siege Army .... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3722281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 You know you want to Xin. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3722298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonkin Arenis Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 A breaching formation from the 9th. Perhaps make them Terran born that hate flying. I have this image of a 30k-era B A Baracus, and it is beautiful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3722392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I have been experimenting with mark IV breachers using the destroyer kit for the very purpose of Alpha Legion infiltrating breachers. Currently on hold as I need all my shields for the Xth. Cool idea - you could combine the Destroyer bodies (to emulate the 'Hardened' armour) with this shield set, which seems a bit more light-weight, and you've got yourself a rapid-response Breacher unit - which would be appropriate for pretty much any Legion: drop em' in an Anvilus / Kharybdis assault claw, or fly them in on a Storm Eagle, and they'll suit even Legion formations that are geared towards lightning assaults. Also: an idea of how they might look: http://image.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/gallery/album_9225/gallery_53779_9225_209575.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3722474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Mk4 breachers made with Destroyers bodies, I saw some Imperial Fists ones on google and they looked awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3722662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonkin Arenis Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I have been experimenting with mark IV breachers using the destroyer kit for the very purpose of Alpha Legion infiltrating breachers. Currently on hold as I need all my shields for the Xth. Cool idea - you could combine the Destroyer bodies (to emulate the 'Hardened' armour) with this shield set, which seems a bit more light-weight, and you've got yourself a rapid-response Breacher unit - which would be appropriate for pretty much any Legion: drop em' in an Anvilus / Kharybdis assault claw, or fly them in on a Storm Eagle, and they'll suit even Legion formations that are geared towards lightning assaults. Also: an idea of how they might look: http://image.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/gallery/album_9225/gallery_53779_9225_209575.jpg That... That's brilliant! Why didn't I think of that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3723120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I have been experimenting with mark IV breachers using the destroyer kit for the very purpose of Alpha Legion infiltrating breachers. Currently on hold as I need all my shields for the Xth. Cool idea - you could combine the Destroyer bodies (to emulate the 'Hardened' armour) with this shield set, which seems a bit more light-weight, and you've got yourself a rapid-response Breacher unit - which would be appropriate for pretty much any Legion: drop em' in an Anvilus / Kharybdis assault claw, or fly them in on a Storm Eagle, and they'll suit even Legion formations that are geared towards lightning assaults. Also: an idea of how they might look: http://image.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/gallery/album_9225/gallery_53779_9225_209575.jpg That's exactly what I was thinking of doing. I may build one when Im next in a building mood. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3723879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 That is an amazing concept and I might have to make a small cadre of elite breacher marines with that idea Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3723909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 Okay I think I have narrowed it down to two legions either going with Iron Hands or World Eaters. Now my question for you is what would a world water siege formation look like to best make use of their rules Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3725747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Well I'm more of a hobbyist then a player, but i think a WE style siege army would be something like a lot of artillery (vindicators) to create a breach, and then quickly close combat troops to exploit the breach. Betrayal makes note that Ferrus Manus lauded the WE for their armored aggression, so it would keep in theme. Rampagers and Red Butchers can take Land Raider Phobos', and the Red Buthers can also take a Spartan. Now I'm not sure how well breachers take up with the WE rules, since their rules are close combat oriented and breachers can benefit from having two CCW's. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3725783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyDreadnought Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Unless it's been FAQ'd, the -1 Strength gifted by Inviolate Armour on the Iron Hands lets Apothecary-supported squads take their FNP saves from S8 artillery since that artillery is now S7 against them. A bow wave of Breachers and Immortals supported by phalanxes of Tacticals and Support Squads, only the most apocalyptic of weapons can remove them with surety. Ave Ferrum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3726441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 I had taken notice of it Just having trouble settling on a legion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292595-siege-style-army-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-3726564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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