Gaweda Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Greetings! I got into the hobby a little over ten years ago, then had an eight year hiatus while I moved to the USA and got married. Now I'm all settled in (aside from our first baby being on the way) and I am back in the hobby. I have a large chaos army, but decided I wanted to gradually build up a blood angels force. I am, sadly, an amateur at painting, and so I wanted to open up this thread and post pictures not to show off (as you'll see...), but to learn from this amazing community. I'd dearly love some constructive criticism and advice so that I can improve. I know there are tutorials on miniature painting, but honestly, I've no idea where to begin. I know at least to 'thin my paints' now, which is more than I did ten years ago! Anyway, there is the introduction. My idea behind the paint job is 'midst of battle' so to speak, so a little bit grungy rather than perfect. Here is my first attempt that I just finished. http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/andrewgaweda1/IMG_20140622_150643_zps2de5ffff.jpg http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/andrewgaweda1/IMG_20140622_150712_zps660e1418.jpg http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/andrewgaweda1/IMG_20140622_150734_zps8fe13081.jpg http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/andrewgaweda1/IMG_20140622_150720_zpse7ccce64.jpg Area's that I'm most unhappy with are the scrollwork and jetpack thrusters(?). The scrollwork was ushbati bone and a wash of seraphim sepia, I just feel it is too dark, like a coffee stain. I'd like the thrusters to glow, I'm just not sure how so right now it's just a layer of leadbelcher so they aren't black. I tried highlighting (hah...), and I'm not too unhappy with the result. For a first try I'm rather pleased. I'm just not sure how to begin improving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 A Good Start , For scrollwork I use a Zandri Dust base then a Screaming skull layer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster damion Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 A fine start but a good paint job start with a good foundation, mould lines seek destroy and look again as yours really jump out Also what paints are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 Ahhh...yes, once seen, it cannot be unseen. Is it too late to give him a scrape? I'm wondering if the paint patch job would look just as bad. In terms of paint I use that would be: Chaos Black primer (or abaddon black?) Base coat mephiston red Nuln oil wash More mephiston red Highlight evil sunz scarlet Another wash of nuln oil Gold is just runefang steel, seraphim sepia wash, highlight runefang steel, another seraphim sepia wash Black between armor, leadbelcher on gun and chainsword Ushbati bone with a seraphim sepia wash for the scrollwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster damion Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 leave the mould lines the touch up would cause more problems I would also be tempted to switch out he purity seal colours as the red is getting lost green would work well and add a spot colour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 Thank you for the advice I just finished my second one and am happier with how he turned out. I decided to do things a little differently by shading with carroburg crimson between the first layer and nuln oil wash, and then finishing with another carroburg crimson wash as opposed to a second nuln. I also changed up the purity seal to a green rather than red, and went lighter with the seraphim sepia wash. This is also my first attempt at engine glow. Let me know what you guys think! Any and all critique and feedback is most welcome. http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/andrewgaweda1/IMG_20140629_153112_zpsdb7ba15f.jpg http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/andrewgaweda1/IMG_20140629_153159_zps3c4c4488.jpg Sorry about photo quality, only got my phone camera! I am also planning on drilling holes in the guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwunzgofasta Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Hi, You've made a great start there. The best advice I could give is just to keep painting and enjoy each miniature. I see in your first post you talked about thinning paints. One product that I can't do without now is vallejo matte medium: http://www.fredericus-rex.de/images/product_images/original_images/matt-medium.jpg I mix a small drop of matte medium into my paint when it's on my wet palette and I think it takes the hassle out of constantly adding water to drying paint. I used to think it would be a pain to use a wet palette but all you need is a tuppaware box, some kitchen roll and some parchment paper. Apologies if you're well aware of wet palettes already but this is the tutorial I followed to make my first one: http://www.fullborerminiatures.com/articles/wetpalette.html Hope this helps and I'm looking forward to seeing more of your minis! Redwunz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster damion Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 excellent work the changes to colour give a much richer red and the green gives the model pop looks great and well tied together. have you considered swapping Nuln Oil for Reikland Fleshshade as it has a brown/purple hue which will shade but also leave the red 'warm' as the purple tone compliments the red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 Hi, You've made a great start there. The best advice I could give is just to keep painting and enjoy each miniature. I see in your first post you talked about thinning paints. One product that I can't do without now is vallejo matte medium: http://www.fredericus-rex.de/images/product_images/original_images/matt-medium.jpg I mix a small drop of matte medium into my paint when it's on my wet palette and I think it takes the hassle out of constantly adding water to drying paint. I used to think it would be a pain to use a wet palette but all you need is a tuppaware box, some kitchen roll and some parchment paper. Apologies if you're well aware of wet palettes already but this is the tutorial I followed to make my first one: http://www.fullborerminiatures.com/articles/wetpalette.html Hope this helps and I'm looking forward to seeing more of your minis! Redwunz Thanks, I'll definitely look into that. Your models are inspiring. excellent work the changes to colour give a much richer red and the green gives the model pop looks great and well tied together. have you considered swapping Nuln Oil for Reikland Fleshshade as it has a brown/purple hue which will shade but also leave the red 'warm' as the purple tone compliments the red Thanks, I definitely appreciate your advice for the green. I'll try out the reikland fleshshade on my next model :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 Well, I finished another two. This first one was replacing the Nuln Oil wash on the red with the Reikland Fleshshade as suggested, while the second used Nuln Oil still. I can't decide which effect I prefer, the difference is rather subtle but it is a difference. I really like them both, so feedback would be great. I'm also feeling better about the glow effect on these models. Small improvements with each one, though sloppiness still abounds. http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/andrewgaweda1/IMGP3241768x1024_zpsc1f88943.jpg http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/andrewgaweda1/IMGP3242768x1024_zps0bef659b.jpg http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/andrewgaweda1/IMGP3243755x1024_zps74983774.jpg http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/andrewgaweda1/IMGP3244742x1024_zps3175c22e.jpg And for good measure, here is a shot of all four painted blood angels so far. http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/andrewgaweda1/IMGP32451280x959_zpsdbed37c4.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster damion Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Excellent work and your improvement in technique shows with every model your paint The difference is indeed subtle and boils down to this the flesh shade gives a 'natural' finish with subtle shading and the oil a more 'comic book' finish with a harsher shading effect. Both work and look good so it comes down to what you think works with the picture in your head. Also all your models have a gloss finish is this intentional? If not have you considered giving them a coat of Matt varnish? If you go down the varnish route test the varnish first to make sure it drys clear and won't ruin your hard work GMD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 Thanks :) I agree about those differences and as I continue to look at the models I think I am leaning more towards the reikland fleshshade. It looks just a tad more tied together. Yes...the gloss. I have been using Citadel 'Ardcoat to varnish my models and am increasingly unhappy about the glossiness. Do you have any matte varnish suggestions? And on another note, my next model is the sergeant and I am very intimidated by the power Axe and plasma pistol. Tutorial pointers or general advice very welcome :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Well, it's been a long time coming but I finally completed the sergeant. Very happy with how the red turned out, very unhappy with the lightning on the axe. The plasma glow is meh...ok. I didn't really find any decent tutorials, and so just winged it and tried to use the same technique as the engine glow. Not too bad for a beginners first try. I went a different direction with the gold and am happy with it. Trial and error the whole way. It's meant to be a very dirty look, so though gold should probably be brighter and shinier, I actually like the look. Sorry about the weird focus of the photos, I could not get my camera to cooperate at all! http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/andrewgaweda1/IMGP3246768x1024_zps70ea0dfb.jpg http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/andrewgaweda1/IMGP3247768x1024_zps2e06dcbd.jpg http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/andrewgaweda1/IMGP3248768x1024_zpsbdd721ae.jpg http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/andrewgaweda1/IMGP3249756x1024_zps4308ce33.jpg Also, here is the reason for my taking a long time to complete this model. Beautiful eh! Born on wednesday, woohoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Congratulations. The sergeant looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxxel Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Congrats! You can find a power weapon explanation in my WIP topic actually. For lightning crackles you can just use the same colors: Dark blue base coat Blue lines where you want the lightning to go Lighter blue over the previous lines but thinner Even lighter (maybe even white) Also add a line highlight to the entire axe blade with the final lightest color you use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Thanks, that's actually a really great tutorial! I'll be sure to follow it for the next power weapon which happens to be the furioso librarian I just assembled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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