Coming soon...The Purge?

[Blood Angel Scout]

http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/the-purge-limited-edition.html

 

Fellow B an' C'ers

 

Saw this on BL, hope it works as a link, and wonder if anyone has any info on the content, not much on BL at the moment and even when viewing the artwork, no clear sign of who it is....initial thought was Lucius cause of the scars on the face but again could be several options.

 

Thanks

 

BA Scout

[Hyaenidae]

For some reason, i'm imagining the purge of Terrans from the Word Bearers ranks.

 

If that's the case, could be pretty interesting.

[SteelPaladin]

http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-at-bl/new-horus-heresy-limited-edition.html

I got all excited because I thought it would be a Word Bearer novella by ADB... Apparently it is a Word Bearer novella by Anthony Reynolds. Might have to pass on this.

[Hyaenidae]

Ug. That was the joker who came up with the Terran purge in the first place.

 

I was hoping a different author would create loopholes for surviving Terrans to show up. Instead, we're gonna see how the terran purge was utterly complete, behind the sound of evil cackling and twisting handlebar mustaches. 

[JeffTibbetts]

THat's a little confusing. The Purge is a Chaos Space Marine chapter dedicated to Nurgle. With the rumored Nurgle releases rumored to come next month I thought for sure it was centered around them as a Renegade chapter, a la the Crimson Slaughter. I guess not. 

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

This may just have been some baseless fever dream, but wasn't there a bit in Massacre that mentions the Word Bearers participating in a number of engagements where the Terran Legionaries [or all of those who were part of the Legion before the discovery of Colchis] were used in meat grinder battles, without support, to effectively 'legitimately' eradicate them?

 

If that's the case, then I'm sure it'd leave plenty of loopholes for survivors.

[Emperor's Furor]

Yeah they killed them off by throwing them into engagements they knew they couldn't deal with etc It would be nice to see some loyalist Word Bearers, but I don't think there will be that many, not enough for an army imo.

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

What about small forces that were attached to Expeditionary Fleets that were on the very fringes of the Crusade / embedded within other Legion forces?

 

I doubt Lorgar would recall them all & send them off for destruction - it would be a far too overt move, and with other Legions already distrustful of his motivations post Monarchia, risk exposing his activities / plans in the years prior to the Heresy - far better to leave them in their place and ignore them, as they'd likely be turned upon when the Word Bearers main force showed their true colours, or be too small to have any significant impact on events at large.

[Emperor's Furor]

I'm not sure, I thought the Word Bearers mostly stayed together like the White Scars.

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

Unless I'm mistaken, I think the Serrated Suns were part of an external Expeditionary Fleet prior to Monarchia & their 'ascension' to the Gal Vorbak.

 

I've always assumed all Legions had smaller splinter formations, varying from Chapter to Demi-Company in size - although this would occur to a lesser / greater extent depending on the specific Legion.

[Emperor's Furor]

Yeah I guess, I thought I read they tended to stick together, but then again you have examples in smaller stories where they have Garrisons on asteroids and midway comm stations etc.

[Ion]

I'm fairly certain they would have had splinter formations, considering the size of each legion they likely would have separated to cover more ground, maybe changing every so often so that they cycled out and back to the main legion force every so often.

 

Eidolon's group is the best example I can think of, and the Blood Angels group who first landed on Murder.

[Blood Angel Scout]

Thought there was a passage somewhere where Lorgar says that there were WB that stayed loyal to the Imperium and were removed in a subtle fashion, opposed to how the SoH, WE and EC slaughtered their own at Isstvan 3. Can't remember if its First Heretic/Aurelian/Betrayer though, pretty sure FH and he's speaking to Argel Tal.

 

Thanks...don't know why never clicked the blog link earlier....but from it says it follows a squad in a pivotal event in the WB history so Marduk and Burias again?

 

Hopefully, get a better idea when the excerpt goes up but intrigued by both the tagline and artwork as could be a squad of WB with any one of the other legions

[Knight of the Raven]

I'm looking forward to every surviving character being the very same ones we see in the 40,000 novels. And only them.

 

Wasn't there a loyalist Word Bearer chaplain in Deliverance Lost? Of course, Corax did the purge for Lorgar in that case...

[Daemon2027]

Regarding Terran Word Bearers, Laurie Goulding over on the TFE used to say, it's a big universe, when responding to comments on loyalist of the traitors, and other such interesting legion deviances, however he was certain that all Terran Word Bearers were purged. Personally I prefer the first, it's a big damn universe, how can you kill every Terran.

 

In fact, my own Word Bearers, who are a mere thought in my head, have a Terran Word Bearer, on his own pilgrimage, to become something greater in service to his Primarch, Legion, and to the true Gods. However I am choosing to ignore a lot of written Word Bearer stuff. I can't stand the pure evil cartoon characters most writers make them, I see them as philosopher warriors, spreading the Word across the galaxy as both crusaders and preachers, with bolter and chainsword, and honeyed words, each on their own spiritual journey. For me, Erebus and Kor Phaeron, are just one group within the legion, one that is tainted by ambition and lust for power. Their version of the Word is impure, and one that was supposed to have burned in the fires of Calth. However, as the say, the Gods move in mysterious ways.

 

But that's just me.

 

Will probably get this book just to see what it's like but have not really enjoyed non ADB Word Bearer work that much.

[Ion]

There's one line in one of the books I really liked, that summed up the Word Bearers perfectly to me. I can't remember who said it, or in which book it was, but it basically went something like 'I wish that this wasn't the truth, but is' 

I think it might have been Argel Tal to Khârn in Betrayer...

 

But basically the idea that to the Word Bearers it was a matter of following the will of the heavens, when the Emperor denied his divinity they found other gods who took his place, and whether or not they liked what they needed to do at first, in their minds to defy heaven was unthinkable, so they did what they did anyway. And they were slowly corrupted.

 

Obviously not applicable to every member, but it makes more sense to me this way.

[Kol Saresk]

For some reason, i'm imagining the purge of Terrans from the Word Bearers ranks.

 

If that's the case, could be pretty interesting.

Yeah, the runic script on the cover, the man covered in monkly robes and the quote "treachery lies behind a loyal mask" certainly seem to be a dead giveaway. And I could be wrong, but I thought it was clarified that the purge was neither solely Terrans, nor all of them?

 

Given that The First Heretic clearly shows Xaphen making the pass, Aurelian outlines that Lorgar's future recruitment plan would be drawing recruits from every world they conquered, not just Colchis and Terra and Massacre pointed out that the purge was of loyalist elements, not those of Terran blood.

 

So running back to "it was only the Terrans" does seem rather lacklustre. Of course, one way they could spin it off is to go ahead and show the division of power bases between Lorgar, Kor Phaeron and Erebus by having those involved with the purge having different requirements as to who counts being determined by whichever demagogue they obey.

 

For example, those who follow Lorgar only purge those who are not loyal to the Legion and and would not turn against the Imperium. This requirement would explain an individual like Narek. He did become a traitor. He was and is loyal to the XVII Legion. The reason he now fights to kill Lorgar is because he is against the corrupting influence of the warp, not because he is a secret Loyalist.

 

And then we get Erebus, whose requirements are more mysterious as he eliminates those who would disrupt the futures he sees and blindly follows.

 

And then Kor Phaeron's brood, like Marduk, are the "puritans" who targeted those of non-Colchisian birth as well as those who are of "questionable loyalty".

 

It could certainly add an interesting dynamic as the elements commiting the purge could come into conflict with each other because of the orders they've been given.

 

I'm looking forward to every surviving character being the very same ones we see in the 40,000 novels. And only them.

 

Wasn't there a loyalist Word Bearer chaplain in Deliverance Lost? Of course, Corax did the purge for Lorgar in that case...

We don't know if he was loyalist or not, just that he kept refusing the accusations Corax threw at him and was ultimately killed for being of the XVII Legion.

 

And as for Laurie Goulding saying ALL Terrans were purged, obviously he never met Xaphen. Or he could have missed that one little line. Its forgiveable. The guy has a ton of information to float through. Sort of like how it escaped everyone's notice that until Extermination, Alpharius had THREE introduction dates, not the linear two the rest of the Primarchs had(discovery by Imperium, then Legion introduction; Alpharius was secreted away by Horus first). Of course, now he has no clear origin story(Thank you Extermination!). So making a fully declarative statement on a topic that has already proven the fully declarative statement false is............. Risky.

[Spinsanity]

I know this was discussed a lot when the topic came up, but since this is the only official confirmation we have so far that the novel is about the Word Bearers purge and hasn't been mentioned here, I figured I'd point it out here too...

 

Looking at BL's New titles page (here) rather than the link originally provided above, the title's description reads :

A brand new limited edition Horus Heresy novella, exclusive to blacklibrary.com. A pivotal event revealed in the history of the Word Bearers Legion.

 

So this confirms it is about the XVII, although just a novella unfortunately...

[Vesper]

Ug. That was the joker who came up with the Terran purge in the first place.

 

I was hoping a different author would create loopholes for surviving Terrans to show up. Instead, we're gonna see how the terran purge was utterly complete, behind the sound of evil cackling and twisting handlebar mustaches. 

 

To be absolutly fair, we already had the other side of the stick, with basically everyone and his mother surviving Istvaan III. With the virus bombing being practically useless because "let's hide !".

That's more than enough.

 

[Marshal Traben]

http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab195/Pohjanpoika85/MkPuhKan_zpsa7bbde69.jpg

[Emperor's Furor]

With his armour being red though it suggests to me it was set after Istvaan.

[Kol Saresk]

I don't know. I think I'll give it a chance and hope that since the Heresy is supposedto be a more collective effort and that since The First Heretic and Massacre have moved beyond the "Purge all the Terrans" to "Purge the Loyalists and Questionables", that this has moved on with it and that as I theorized, the "Terran only" isn't the entirety of the Purge, but is rather a racist aspect carried out by the more radical elements.

 

@WoT: Erebus had red armor as early as Istvaan III. The Gal Vorbak were cut off from the mainstream Legion so we can't really use one guy being in red armor and carrying what looks like a crozius with two other guys wearing grey armor as a definitive marker to determine timeline placement.

[Wade Garrett]

Anthony Reynolds once more tackles the Word Bearers. JOY!

I have obtained secret excerpts of The Purge of all the Terrans, just like Ashkannez described it in Dark Creed(official title) via a secret process, which I will now post on the BnC because INFORMATION WANTS TO BE FREE!

"Kill all the Terrans. Alllll of them!" said Lorgar, then he laughed an evil laugh.

"Are you sure, my son?" said Kor Phaeron. "Many of them now loathe the Emperor more than even our Colchisian recruits."

"Kill. All. The. Terrans. These are small words, in a short sentence. So why are you not out killing all the Terrans right now?"

"But-"

"I SAID KILL THEM ALL! ALL THE TERRANS! NO EXCEPTIONS! YOU, AARON DEMBSKI BOWDEN!"

"Lorgar...who's Aaron Dembski Bowden?"

"You're starting to look a bit Terran to me, pops..."

"Right, right, killing all Terrans, on it, on it right now!"

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"Your name is DOG!" Marduk spat, and then he backhanded Cyrene.

"WE WILL EAT YOUR STILL BEATING HEARTS FOR THAT!" Argel Tal screamed in two voices as he reached for the neophyte with clawed hands...then he stopped.

Both the man and the daemon in his heart could tell...this neophye was Awesome.

"Actually, we won't kill you, even though we have every reason to. Would you like to join the Legion's Gal Vorbak elite? You don't even have to be possessed first. We'd waive that requirement, because you're just that awesome."

"As if." Marduk sneered. "I have a much cooler, much more awesome, super special destiny than you."

Mercury tears poured from the eye lids of Argel Tal's helm, and then he ran away crying, because he knew he would never be as awesome as Marduk.

[Tyrannicide]

My word, what beautiful artwork. 

[depthcharge12]

Anthony Reynolds once more tackles the Word Bearers. JOY!

I have obtained secret excerpts of The Purge of all the Terrans, just like Ashkannez described it in Dark Creed(official title) via a secret process, which I will now post on the BnC because INFORMATION WANTS TO BE FREE!"Kill all the Terrans. Alllll of them!" said Lorgar, then he laughed an evil laugh.

"Are you sure, my son?" said Kor Phaeron. "Many of them now loathe the Emperor more than even our Colchisian recruits."

"Kill. All. The. Terrans. These are small words, in a short sentence. So why are you not out killing all the Terrans right now?"

"But-"

"I SAID KILL THEM ALL! ALL THE TERRANS! NO EXCEPTIONS! :cuss YOU, AARON DEMBSKI BOWDEN!"

"Lorgar...who's Aaron Dembski Bowden?"

"You're starting to look a bit Terran to me, pops..."

"Right, right, killing all Terrans, on it, on it right now!"

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"Your name is DOG!" Marduk spat, and then he backhanded Cyreni.

"WE WILL EAT YOUR STILL BEATING HEARTS FOR THAT!" Argel Tal screamed in two voices as he reached for the neophyte with clawed hands...then he stopped.

Both the man and the daemon in his heart could tell...this neophye was Awesome.

"Actually, we won't kill you, even though we have every reason to. Would you like to join the Legion's Gal Vorbak elite? You don't even have to be possessed first. We'd waive that requirement, because you're just that awesome."

"As if." Marduk sneered. "I have a much cooler, much more awesome, super special destiny than you."

Mercury tears poured from the eye lids of Argel Tal's helm, and then he ran away crying, because he knew he would never be as awesome as Marduk.

 

Well hopefully it's not like a certain Gav Thorpe novel that Lorgar suddenly kills one of his soldiers for questioning orders. In this case maybe it would be good if Lorgar falcon punched Kor Phaeron......lol