Brother Captain Ed Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Greetings Brothers. I have two Honor Guard standard bearers. One is carrying an Ultramarines Chapter Standard that was painted over the course of weeks annd of which I am inordinately proud. The other is in a box. Given that it would otherwise be a wasted a model, it seems like a perfect opportunity to convert and paint the Standard of the Emperor Ascendant. Sadly, I am not aware of art that would even hint at its form nor do any banners in the current GW line really turn my crank. I have considered utilizing the Tomb Kings Tomb Herald as a starting point as it incorporates both two-headed eagles and skulls (both of which I think the Emperor may have utilized in life). After that, however, my idea well runneth dry. Especially since my ability to freehand is pretty much nil. So, I am hoping to tap into the collective talent pool of my battle-brothers for some inspiration. Any brainstorming would be appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293567-the-standard-of-the-emperor-ascendant/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 The only thing jumping out in my mind is the mosaic art of the Chapel of the God-Emperor on Cadia, in the 13th Black Crusade book. Swap the Eye for an Aquila, and you should be set: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293567-the-standard-of-the-emperor-ascendant/#findComment-3741416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Ed Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 Thank you for posting that! I have not seen that art before. However, as noted, my ability to freehand is not up to that task. Also, do you think the Emperor would have an image of himself on his own banner? I'm genuinely not sure one way or the other. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293567-the-standard-of-the-emperor-ascendant/#findComment-3741935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Ah. Well, when you mentions 'Ascendant' I assumed that meant 'after his internment on the Throne'. His worshippers wouldn't bat an eye to putting him on a Banner, most likely in his prime. If you meant his own personal banner, then reds and golds would be the primary colors, heavy with Eagles and Lightning Bolts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293567-the-standard-of-the-emperor-ascendant/#findComment-3741944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reckoning Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Really nice war-torn, relic looking banner. The top part is a great bit. The banner itself has a great Aquila already molded on. Just have some shaving and GS work to do. A really cool looking way to annotate the Emperor's ascension IMO. All of these would take work but I think that comes with the territory until GW releases a model (unlikely). Another option is to take two banners, one big one small, and combine them into a super banner. If you have another UM banner this could look really cool combined with any of the above or really any banner. Not terribly helpful but the above are what springs to my mind when I think of TSotEA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293567-the-standard-of-the-emperor-ascendant/#findComment-3742101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Ed Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 Those are all good ideas. And, yes, you are right that work will be involved. That is assumed. I'd just rather it be work I can actually do. Combining banners (or elements thereof) is probably the route I'm going to go. I don't mind looking at a conversion and saying "Ok, so it's a those pieces from X and a clever use of that bit from Y..." but "Oh...hey...nice High Elf banner" is something I want to avoid. I was thinking of using that Tomb Bearer standard as a topper and the either having a banner cascade downward from it (similiar to a traditional Space Marine banner) or do a bodge and have something flowing behind it (the Emperor is always advancing, after all) like so. The comment about lightning bolts was super helpful as well, since I had forgotten that. There should be some suitable Roman style bits out there to help with that. So it should be impressive and different... But maybe too different? It's been ten thousand years, but I'm not sure the Emperor's banner would be very different from a Space Marine Chapter's, out of reverance for the original, if nothing else. EDIT: I considered the Empire general's effigy style, but ruled it out. Only Sisters use similar styles and they are typically reliquary styled. The Emperor would not have done so, methinks. (And it's described as having adamantine thread, so it's probably cloth.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293567-the-standard-of-the-emperor-ascendant/#findComment-3742203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reckoning Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 The only problem I have with the Tomb Kings piece is the bird heads look more like vultures. Generally, the Imperial Aquila is portrayed as being very blocky with straight edges. Quick work with a file should do the trick. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293567-the-standard-of-the-emperor-ascendant/#findComment-3742253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Ed Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 True. But I'm kinda ok with it. It's a relic from an age before the Aquila became...well...The Aquila. Seems like it should evoke recognitiion without being stylized. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293567-the-standard-of-the-emperor-ascendant/#findComment-3742272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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