Hesh Kadesh Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 The Imperial Truth, is not the Truth after all. Heresy I know. See this is one of my biggest bugbears. Did noone seriously question why the truth needed to be codified as the Imperial Truth? Should it not just be the Truth? Od is it one of these marketing things? Like in the grim darkness of the far future there is only Apple and the iTruth? Like they've progressed from monopolising brainless teenagers into monopolosing war profits and create an iEmpire under an iEmperor, with iLegions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4268198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 The Imperial Truth, is not the Truth after all. Heresy I know. See this is one of my biggest bugbears. Did noone seriously question why the truth needed to be codified as the Imperial Truth? Should it not just be the Truth? Od is it one of these marketing things? Like in the grim darkness of the far future there is only Apple and the iTruth? Like they've progressed from monopolising brainless teenagers into monopolosing war profits and create an iEmpire under an iEmperor, with iLegions? What are you going on about, the Horus Heresy is CLEARLY Atari vs Commodore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4268222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@verik115 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I'm sure by now every forum member is learning to dread the keyboard ZEAL of the Black Templars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4268233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGone Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 So, uh, how about the new Garro novella, guys... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4268307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Silly Black Templars, that oath had a lot of Capitalised Hims, His, and He's for a people that don't worship him as a god ;) Besides, isn't the Emperor not being worshiped relatively new? Before the HH novels, I thought he was all about being worshipped? (On a side note, I do actually dislike how they changed the fluff of the BT, btw) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4268637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 We haven't even left the page with the Giant Yellow Text Yet. So, how bout that Garro book...? >:\ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4268642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Don;t make me actually buy and read it, Slips ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4268715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 The Imperial Truth, is not the Truth after all. Heresy I know. See this is one of my biggest bugbears. Did noone seriously question why the truth needed to be codified as the Imperial Truth? Should it not just be the Truth? Od is it one of these marketing things? Like in the grim darkness of the far future there is only Apple and the iTruth? Like they've progressed from monopolising brainless teenagers into monopolosing war profits and create an iEmpire under an iEmperor, with iLegions? Somewhere in the warp is a daemon representing all the frustration of dealing with Apple products. Think about it. Oh, right, Garro. I didn't follow the audio dramas, would I be super lost if I picked the ebook of this up? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4268774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 The Imperial Truth, is not the Truth after all. Heresy I know. See this is one of my biggest bugbears. Did noone seriously question why the truth needed to be codified as the Imperial Truth? Should it not just be the Truth? Od is it one of these marketing things? Like in the grim darkness of the far future there is only Apple and the iTruth? Like they've progressed from monopolising brainless teenagers into monopolosing war profits and create an iEmpire under an iEmperor, with iLegions? Somewhere in the warp is a daemon representing all the frustration of dealing with Apple products. Think about it. Oh, right, Garro. I didn't follow the audio dramas, would I be super lost if I picked the ebook of this up? Yeh i think you might be a bit lost. Garro is not the same guy he was in FotI. Even if the book has the same cast. The book might still be good though. I have been quick to get all the Garro stuff, and I am a bit mad that I wont be getting this one any time soon. I love the spoilers here but people always miss stuff. The silent WAR story line is full of Easter eggs, hard to spot them all. Question...... Libertas has been at the center of a lot of my conspiracy theory's. What happens with this blessed blade in this book? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4269229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 The Cigarette Smoking Man locked it in the basement of the Imperial Palace, next to The two female Primarchs and loyalist Sevatar in stasis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4269251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 The Cigarette Smoking Man locked it in the basement of the Imperial Palace, next to The two female Primarchs and loyalist Sevatar in stasis.q This made me laugh more than I think I was supposed to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4269300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goosey_j Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just read the spoilers of this book. It sounds *so* lame. Why oh WHY is the Vindicare from Nemesis still alive? And why is he evil now? The only redeeming quality of Nemesis was the the way in which he apparently dies, trying to fly his space craft into the bridge of the Vengeful Spirit with the whole "I am the weapon" shpiel. That was cool. But now he's alive and running around on Terra 20 odd books later? Jesus that is so poor. And I don't even want to know how poorly Sigismund is written. Thank god we have French and ADB actually doing the character justice. Has James Swallow been taken off the main writing team for the Horus Heresy? He's not produced a half decent book since FotE. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4269310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 Just read the spoilers of this book. It sounds *so* lame. Why oh WHY is the Vindicare from Nemesis still alive? And why is he evil now? The only redeeming quality of Nemesis was the the way in which he apparently dies, trying to fly his space craft into the bridge of the Vengeful Spirit with the whole "I am the weapon" shpiel. That was cool. But now he's alive and running around on Terra 20 odd books later? Jesus that is so poor. And I don't even want to know how poorly Sigismund is written. Thank god we have French and ADB actually doing the character justice. Has James Swallow been taken off the main writing team for the Horus Heresy? He's not produced a half decent book since FotE. I am glad that I have read Gunsite, and most of the other short reads. With out the full story and relying on others interpretations in spoiler form, might give me a similar view. BL has not made it easy to get the full story. Quick reads, Audio dramas and Limited editions are quote the gauntlet. The Silent WAR story line is harder then most in this area. James Swallow is doing a great job with his part of the over all story. I think he has a particularly hard job and is apt to get on the bad side of many Heresy fans. The Silent WAR is going a long way to shift the Canon. I for one am grateful for his and the others work even when it takes the story in a direction that offends my Loyalist Fanboy hopes and dreams. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4269696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoogleusMaximus Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I suspected for a short while as I was reading the book but by the end I had dismissed it as he didn't really have any real bad reaction to blanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4270153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Merged both Garro Topics that talk about the book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4270394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foto69man Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 So I am not the biggest audio book person, as in it's hard for me to sit through them. Can someone spoiler a run down on Garro's adventures and where he seems to be heading? I'm just not sure what his role is/will be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4285102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 So I am not the biggest audio book person, as in it's hard for me to sit through them. Can someone spoiler a run down on Garro's adventures and where he seems to be heading? I'm just not sure what his role is/will be.For this audiobook specifically or everything up until now? If it's this audiobook specifically Garro runs into an Munitorum analyst who is currently on the run from Mechanicum forces. Reason being is because the Mechanicum forces are charged with hunting her down because she stumbled across Malcador's hidden troop and supply movements, although they don't realize it is Malcador yet. Of course, they eventually find out it is Malcador's plan for creating the Grey Knights and Garro and Malcador have an argument that is then followed by Garro renewing his oaths and promising to be the sword of truth to Malcador's shield of lies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293603-garro-shield-of-lies-james-swallow/page/7/#findComment-4285187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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