Logan Grimnar

[Growler67]

Hi all

 

Just went to possibly purchase Grimnar and he is no longer available from Games workshop!!! new model maybe? and also no battleforce unless im being blind!

 

If they are going to release a new cast then it's no surprise with the imminent arrival of the new dex.....typical for GW to do so, even with the battleforce box.....just hang on until next month when it all drops....fingers crossed he doesn't look like a Squat in SW armor....

[BT_Cennar]

Hi all

Just went to possibly purchase Grimnar and he is no longer available from Games workshop!!! new model maybe? and also no battleforce unless im being blind!

If this is true then there wont be a new Ragnar model. As its still availible. Same for Bjorn. Seeing 2 of the most beloved SW models with poor Rules not updatet might also be a hint they are out (of favor from GW´s side).

GW is still a company and they dicede on sales ragnar=poor sale so drop him or at least no need to upgrade.. They never ask WHY is he so poorly sold.. cuse he has crapy Rules.

I feel bad for Ragnar and Bjorn.. next Codex might see "new" Wolflords rising like Krom from the StormClaw box.

[Bloody Legionnaire]

^more like he is undersold because no one wants to buy a crappy looking model. I'm still not seeing what you all are seeing though. Online in both UK and US GWs, he's still available....

[wookieman]

The model comes up on the website but below it says no longer available.

[Valerian]

 

I feel bad for Ragnar and Bjorn.. next Codex might see "new" Wolflords rising like Krom from the StormClaw box.They never ask WHY is he so poorly sold..  cuse he has crapy Rules.

 

 

Crappy rules?  For Ragnar?  Ragnar has terrific rules - he's a powerhouse.  His only downsides are his high-cost, which is a product of the timing of our old codex; costs for heroes of his caliber in 6e have come down, so we can expect his price will adjust down as well.  His other downside is the lack of 2+ Armor, so I'm really crossing my fingers that he gets Runic Armor, vice regular Power. 

 

It wouldn't take much adjusting at all in the 7e dex for everybody to want to play with him, and all he needs is a new Krom-like model for them to sell like hot-cakes.

 

v

[Rune_Priest_Rhapsody]

 

 

I feel bad for Ragnar and Bjorn.. next Codex might see "new" Wolflords rising like Krom from the StormClaw box.They never ask WHY is he so poorly sold..  cuse he has crapy Rules.

 

 

Crappy rules?  For Ragnar?  Ragnar has terrific rules - he's a powerhouse.  His only downsides are his high-cost, which is a product of the timing of our old codex; costs for heroes of his caliber in 6e have come down, so we can expect his price will adjust down as well.  His other downside is the lack of 2+ Armor, so I'm really crossing my fingers that he gets Runic Armor, vice regular Power. 

 

It wouldn't take much adjusting at all in the 7e dex for everybody to want to play with him, and all he needs is a new Krom-like model for them to sell like hot-cakes.

 

v

 

That and the above stated HORRID old model. Hands on hips old!! If the hands are on the hips, it's archaic!! :P

I hope they give him runic armor as well. It would certainly help him see a lot more play having a 2/4++!!

 

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[skeletoro]

Oh crape I just converted a grey hunter to have a hand on his hip...

[BT_Cennar]

 

 

I feel bad for Ragnar and Bjorn.. next Codex might see "new" Wolflords rising like Krom from the StormClaw box.They never ask WHY is he so poorly sold..  cuse he has crapy Rules.

 

 

Crappy rules?  For Ragnar?  Ragnar has terrific rules - he's a powerhouse.  His only downsides are his high-cost, which is a product of the timing of our old codex; costs for heroes of his caliber in 6e have come down, so we can expect his price will adjust down as well.  His other downside is the lack of 2+ Armor, so I'm really crossing my fingers that he gets Runic Armor, vice regular Power. 

 

It wouldn't take much adjusting at all in the 7e dex for everybody to want to play with him, and all he needs is a new Krom-like model for them to sell like hot-cakes.

 

v

 

Yor are right, i didnt express proper.. crapy stats not rules for Ragnar. 2+4++ and he is good to go with slightly point adjustment and maybe some rules for DropPod assault like no scatter? Still ugly Model. While Logan has been removed, Ragnar (yet) not. The model might be not replaced or they just try to sell their stock or they simply ran out of Logan as my LGW staff told me yesterday

[Rune_Priest_Rhapsody]

@Skeletoro: Pics, or it didn't happen!!

 

The lore of the Space Wolves might just be the deepest and most majestic in the 40K universe, and if 7th edition is truly all about 'forging the narrative', we just might see more fluff and then an accompanying rise of some of the other wolf lords!! After it was leaked that the Stormclaw was to include Krom, I did a bit of research on the other wolf lords and found just about the same amount of info on them as there is on Krom. Basically, you get a few sightings and whatever the codex has stated about them. BORING!! I'd love to see some more detail brought to light about the lesser known lords in this edition, personally. Ragnar, while cool, has never really spoke to me as a character or a model. So with the small push for Harald Deathwolf at the end of 5th and now Krom Dragongaze, I certainly welcome the possible shift in focus!!

 

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[logun]

maybe there will be great company traits

[Leif Bearclaw]

maybe there will be great company traits

That would be kinda cool, but I highly doubt it'll materialise.

 

And it would probably cause yet another wave of anger/despair to erupt on the Chaos forum.

[logun]

 

maybe there will be great company traits

That would be kinda cool, but I highly doubt it'll materialise.

 

And it would probably cause yet another wave of anger/despair to erupt on the Chaos forum.

 

 

as if they need a reason lol.

 

could always be some kind of a downside to these traits to. anyway thats wishlisting, so i'll leave it be.

[skeletoro]

I wonder if we'll see any 'x as troops' options. Currently we have Logan wing but would be interesting to see wolf scout wing and TWC wing to give Morkai and Harald some love

It may be we'll get something like it through formations. If so, hopefully those formations are either somewhat flexible/customizable or else are served up in relatively smallish chunks so that we can still tailor our lists when we make use of them.

[Rune Priest Jbickb]

I was thinking about what models they may release and it occurred to me that aside from a flyer ( I know opinions vary but I want one lol) all we are really missing is special characters like wolf lords and also we have no official models for wolf prsts, so maybe we might get more named guys. After all that is one of the main features of our beloved wolves is an abundance of characters.

[skeletoro]

Again, filling in gaps in model ranges is only one possible avenue for new releases. I don't think it would make much business sense for GW to only approach their model lines that way ("do any already existing models need new units?"). Black knights, centurions, wraithblades etc are some of the recent releases that weren't really 'needed' - they were developed because the designers decided to expand upon the existing options with new stuff.

 

They did it with SW last time - we didn't 'need' a new TWC unit(when the codex was released I mean- forgetting about the big delay before the models were released) but there was certainly room for them, and I may be in the minority but I'm glad we now have them.

 

A flier is definitely a possibility but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we saw something total out of left field that was bordering on a ret con. Wolf scout bikes? Lone wolf kamikaze? MOTW outflanking suicide unit? A new form of drop pod? I know I'm being optimistic but personally I think there'll be at least one, probably two totally new units that weren't needed.

 

It would boggle my mind for them to update a major codex and not add new units with new kits. But I'm speculating here.

[Rune_Priest_Rhapsody]

 

 

 

 

 

maybe there will be great company traits

That would be kinda cool, but I highly doubt it'll materialise.

 

And it would probably cause yet another wave of anger/despair to erupt on the Chaos forum.

 

 

 

 

 

LOL'ed so Hard!! So true!!

 

And company traits would be super cool, and we deserve them more than chaos  does anyways!! After all, we're not GW's red headed step child!!

 

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[skeletoro]

Yeah, we have blonde hair, it's just soaked in blood.

[Rune_Priest_Rhapsody]

I've seen very little mention of a possible 'Wulfen' unit here in the community. I was thinking about it last night, and I for one could get behind it. Our gene seed can cause marines to convert to a very animalistic state, so it could very well be one of the new kits we see. About as likely as any other suggestion, I suppose.

 

But I agree with you logic, Skeletoro. To release a new book and not new kits, would be HERESY!!

 

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[Griz]

 

 

I feel bad for Ragnar and Bjorn.. next Codex might see "new" Wolflords rising like Krom from the StormClaw box.They never ask WHY is he so poorly sold..  cuse he has crapy Rules.

 

 

Crappy rules?  For Ragnar?  Ragnar has terrific rules - he's a powerhouse.  His only downsides are his high-cost, which is a product of the timing of our old codex; costs for heroes of his caliber in 6e have come down, so we can expect his price will adjust down as well.  His other downside is the lack of 2+ Armor, so I'm really crossing my fingers that he gets Runic Armor, vice regular Power. 

 

It wouldn't take much adjusting at all in the 7e dex for everybody to want to play with him, and all he needs is a new Krom-like model for them to sell like hot-cakes.

 

v

 

I'd have to strongly disagree with you Val.

 

He HAD terrific rules. His rules were written for 5^th Edition and at the time, as you put it he WAS a powerhouse. The USR - Furious Charge was amazing for buffing STR and Init, and the bonus to Init was what make it so valuable. He would be bumped to init 6 and his unit up to 5. That was huge.

 

Then 6^th hit and Furious Charge took a hit and so did Ragnar because of it. Actually lost a lot of steam because of it. Let's not forget that a single Str 8 wound gets through and he's done.

 

I do, however, agree that the price point issue is something that can help to mitigate his usefulness/desirability but overall right now - the lack of AP2 Weapon and feeble armor save just leaves him sitting at the long table in the Aett.

[Rift Blade]

gotta agree with you Skeletoro. I think you're right that we will see at least 2 new units. Well, one new & one reintroduced. I think we'll get some kind of Storm Talon/nephilim and a Leman Russ variant. Plus get access to 2, maybe even 3 of the new toys for vanilla marines. Main one being the Storm raven. Kinda of hoping they do something with the Iron Priest, maybe tie him in with upgrading Thunder Wolves some how but hey, I'm an optimist outside of work. LOL!!!!

[Dantay VI]

No optimism Rift Blade... Optimism leads to hope!!

Hope is the first step on the path to disappointment, Disappointment leads to fear fear leads to anger and anger leads to the dark side!!

But yes I have faith in the Emperor that some new shinies are on their way to the Aett!

[KiltedMarine]

If we actually see a new Ragnar model, that will be enough to make me a happy mutt. The current one dates back to when I was in middle school, if I'm not mistaken, and shows it's age very poorly. A 2+ armor save, and maybe a small points discount, and Blackmane would be worth using again.