grand_master85 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Thought I'd put up my Salamanders paint scheme, I know there's an Alpha Legion one I've contributed to in the past. There have been a couple of questions asking about people's Sallies schemes. The 40k one is far radioactive looking. Much prefer the muted green that the FW books showcase, yet it's still not shown all that well on the minis that FW have painted. I've gone for: Armour - Base - Castellan/Caliban Green mix (though Castellan Green alone would suffice) Wash - 2:1 mix of Army Painter Strong Tone and Lahmian Medium Layer - Castellan Green Glaze - 2 coats of 2:1 Waywatcher Green glaze and Lahmian Medium Bronze - Base - Warplock Bronze Wash - 2:1 mix of Army Painter Strong Tone and Lahmian Medium Layer - Sycorax Bronze Wash - 2:1 mix of Army Painter Strong Tone and Lahmian Medium Higlight - very fine edge highlight of Ironbreaker Here's my Pyroclast Warden. He's almost done, the edge highlight on the bronze and weathering aside. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piano_Sam Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I like it! Been thinking about some Sallies, myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3743423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand_master85 Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share Posted July 12, 2014 And an example vehicle, here my soon-to-be completed Contemptor :) again just some highlights and weathering aside. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3743424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I've been trialing one just and used Castellan to but used a Biel-tan wash over it as I didn't have anything else. For the bronze I used Bronze Scorpion and I'm trying to decided on whether I use a Seraphim Sepia Wash or Agrax Earthshade wash on them. I like the outcome of yours though. I was also considering whether to keep the flames just yellow so that it harks back to the scheme they used to have which was black and yellow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3743440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand_master85 Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share Posted July 12, 2014 Yeah that black and yellow scheme...not my favourite! But you could always paint the armour for them plain black and have the yellow flames :) I generally go a darker brown. If you can get ahold of the Army Paiter washes, I'd recommend them, mixed with some Lahmian Medium Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3743441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Yeah, I didn't want the entire scheme to be black and yellow, but I converted the current forgelord model into a Salamander Praetor and his cloak has flames at the bottom of it on the inside so I kept the inside black but painted the flames yellows and it just made me think it could be a little gesture to their past. I've heard the washes are good but I can't get a reliable source for them and don't particularly want to keep going through ebay for them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3743458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 The colors are on point. Well done! :tu: Do you have any tips for using the Strong Tone? Never heard of it, but it looks like quite a transformational step. Might come in handy for shading some white I'll be painting in the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3743461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand_master85 Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share Posted July 12, 2014 They're just a better version of the GW washes. Akin to the old Badab Black. I always suggest adding a third of Lahmian Medium to the pot as well. Helps the wash flow better. Strong Tone is the brown wash, Dark tone the black Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3743464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor'Vesh Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I think your scheme is great and you've really done the beautiful forgeworld models justice. I paint my Sallies in a richer brighter green, which is the more like the 40k version. I know a lot of people don't like it, but my style of painting uses more edge highlights, and I think this colour gives them a clean and crisp look. Unfortunately I'm still stuck using the old paints, so have no idea what the new names should be. Maybe I'll add a picture if I can get one in better light as a comparison, if you are happy with this? My first pyro is only base coloured though, so it would have to be a regular joe. Anyway, This is the first time I've seen a more muted colour scheme that I've really liked though, so huge credit to you. You've done a great job with the flames too. Do you have a plog or army shot? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3743928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand_master85 Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Have you heard of The First Expedition website? I'm a mod on there, it's a forum solely focused on 30k :) have a gander on the Modelling section and my plot is called A Tale of Snakes and Lizards. Need to transfer some posts over to B&C and start a blog here But yeah, feel free to add some pics. I'm hoping we can get some examples of various people's Sallies schemes on here to help give others some ideas :) whatever works for you, a scheme I might not like as much doesn't mean I can't appreciate someone else doing it! Get some pics up! And thanks for the compliments as well ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3743952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor'Vesh Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 You have a nice plog there, and a really nicely developing army. Have you painted any of the upgrade parts yet? How have you found them? So here is one of my tactical legionaries. http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad231/KorVesh/The%20XVIII%20Legion/ea372c77-5503-42a3-9025-8b9dcfeb187d_zps01ad2324.jpg As I said - i've gone bright green. I'm really pleased with them in the flesh, but I must admit that photo against photo I'd probably pick grandmaster's scheme if I was starting again! Still, I like the clean look and the sharp edges. This is probably more of a 'fantasy' paint scheme, a little bit second edition, compared to the more realistic tones of Grand master's. I know some people hate the bright green, but it is an alternative, and hopefully some approve! Anyway, the green is a knorloc green base coat, which is pretty much entirely covered with snot green. I then give it a heavy wash with Thraka green, which darkens it, and increases the depth. I the edge highlight with a 50:50 mix of snot green and scropion green, and a final highlight on the most extreme edges with scorpion green. I hope y'all can translate that to the new colours! http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad231/KorVesh/The%20XVIII%20Legion/17fc6c3f-728a-4229-ab15-b66e9200ec19_zps13bc9ab1.jpg Cheers, Kor'vesh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3744652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand_master85 Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 Can't see the pics, chap! Can you re-post? I've got a couple of sergeants using the upgrade kit I'm finishing tonight. I'll post the pics up tomorrow :) I like them have to say. Not as keen on the mk IV heads, but I love the mk II and III helms, and the mk III chests Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3745195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Since I unfortunately haven't seen any Salamanders like these since that thread came up a year ago, what do peoplee think of Salamanders painted in a more muted color like Cosmic castaway's, seen here ? Ever since I saw it I've wanted to have one just like it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3745212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand_master85 Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 I do like them. Although I think they're a wee bit too muted for my own tastes. Army does look fantastic though! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3745217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor'Vesh Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Stupid photobucket. Hopefully they will stay on now. You can't argue with the quality of Cosmic castaway's paint job, but its too muted for me too. I think Salamenders should have detailed and ornamented armour, to highlight their craftsmanship. I think grandmaster's scheme really pulls this off, while keeping a more real-world green tone. Each to their own though, it sure is a great looking army! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3745225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prometheancult Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 What do you think to the first 5 of my Legion Assault Squad, it a balance between the muted green and the brighter 40k colours. Cheers J Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3745279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor'Vesh Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 It's a nice green PC - how do you do it? I also really like the battle-scared white bands on the swords. What inspired that, as it's is a nice look? Nice blog by they way - I look forward to seeing your army grow! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3745587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prometheancult Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 The green is a base of Warpstone Glow, then a wash of Nuln Oil, a highlight of Warpstone Glow and a final highlight of a 50/50 mix Warpstone Glow/Moot Green. For the sword I wanted some form of detail on them rather than a flat surface. I like chevrons but though black/yellow would be to much colour, so I decided to give white a go. Glad you like them, and thanks for checking out my blog. I have a lot of catching up to do as my army if further along than the blog. I'll be going through all my methods in greater detail there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3745684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Is there any background info that mentions what kind of green Salamanders used pre heresy? I prefer the bright green seen on the new Salamanders contemptor seen on the FW site but the IA and Kyme's novels all seem to say they're a darker green. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3745886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand_master85 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 Your best bet would be to check out the Forge World Horus Hereay books, specifically book 2: Massacre. There are a lot of examples in there of marines, tanks and dreadnoughts. Google Gould bring some results up. It seems a very similar colour to Castellan Green. In fact, what is odd to me is that the green on the Dreadnought on the FW website is a totally different green to the one in the books. As I have said before though, Forge World seem to have an obsession with using Tamiya clear paints and airbrushes, so I imagine there was no camo-esque green available. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3745901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prometheancult Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Forgeworld tend to use Tamiya flat green for the salamanders in their product photos. It's always important to remember that it's your army. Paint them how you like. The images in the books and models that FW/GW paint are to serve as inspiration. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3745923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand_master85 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 Exactly what Prometheancult said; it's your hobby, your army, your time. You should really do what works for you. Take it from someone who has spent a lot of time trying to follow schemes and driving myself mad trying to emulate something I don't want to do. The best thing to do is grab some old Black Reach tacticals, and try out a variety of schemes on theme. Some Caliban Green, some Castellan. Try Army Painter paints, Vallejo or Tamiya. As the Horus Heresy is so expensive, you don't want to regret painting a load of minis! That's why I started this thread, in the hopes of getting other people's ideas and examples up. Try a few schemes out and show us the results :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3745948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prometheancult Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Guys here are some shots of my nearly finished Contemptor. I have to finish the plasma blasta in the power fist and do something on the left shoulder shield, what do you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3745951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor'Vesh Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Its a nice contemptor for sure. The heat effect on the melta barrel are particularly excellent. Are golden helms a sign of veteran status in your force? I'd probably have had black regions on the shoulders or gun myself, to offset the green a little, like the grand masters version. I like it a lot though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3746087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand_master85 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 Definitely add some black or gold in. I've had to revisit a few of my tacticals and paint the shoulder pads black etc. a little extra colour goes a long way! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293670-salamanders-paint-scheme/#findComment-3746089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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