CatSmasher Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 http://imgur.com/a/Bumqw Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Thanks for posting the link. The minis look rather nice but it still stinks of a 6.5/7 Ed starter set to me! I have been wandering if their would be a mini rule book as part of this box and now I know there is one in the box I will be seeking it out on Ebay! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiOfRuss Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Can you post a pic of the SW rules sheet in the box? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I am especially curious if the packs in Fierce eye's finest are fixed or can be modded Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I would like to know if those two actually have rules in it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 The sprues in the kit other than the 2 HQ's are confirmed as being the regular (ie NON snap fit) sprues. Yes, you can build them however you'd like to... Thanks for posting the pictures, Catsmasher!! End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatSmasher Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Vid of unboxing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkLfO88hVSs#t=197 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatSmasher Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Looks like those GH do not have the CCW,BP, B loadout. This is terrible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Looks like those GH do not have the CCW,BP, B loadout. This is terrible. Not necessarily. If ultragrit is an optional upgrade (+1 point per model on a 14 point base), that'd be a step forward, imo, since having to pay points for the close combat weapon has put hurt them compared to the cheaper tactical marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatSmasher Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Looks like those GH do not have the CCW,BP, B loadout. This is terrible. Not necessarily. If ultragrit is an optional upgrade (+1 point per model on a 14 point base), that'd be a step forward, imo, since having to pay points for the close combat weapon has put hurt them compared to the cheaper tactical marines. A fair and reasonable retort. I hope you are correct, Is there precedence of this in another codex? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthstar Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 and even then the way their modeled confirms nothing yet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Looks like those GH do not have the CCW,BP, B loadout. This is terrible. Not necessarily. If ultragrit is an optional upgrade (+1 point per model on a 14 point base), that'd be a step forward, imo, since having to pay points for the close combat weapon has put hurt them compared to the cheaper tactical marines. A fair and reasonable retort. I hope you are correct, Is there precedence of this in another codex? Chaos marines and legion tactical squads both work like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiOfRuss Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 It also could be a misprint/book error - they just missed putting "Close Combat Weapon" for the Grey Hunters. Or maybe they purposefully cut it out to be "simpler" in this box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 and even then the way their modeled confirms nothing yet No, close combat weapon is missing from the grey hunters entry in the Dataslate for Krom's pack. We don't know what that means. For the record, CSM get an extra close combat weapon for 2 points, while the Charchodons pay 1 point (Presumably Forgeworld noticed that 2 points for the extra weapon meant no one took them, and adjusted to compensate). Which way GW will go remains to be seen, although I'd like to think they have the business sense to realize that seriously messing up a codex with such a rabid following (canine pun intended) is a very, very bad idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Email cannon barrage requested? Noted. On a more serious note, I just wonder why GW feels that CCW on GH's needs to cost extra compared to normal SM's. I mean, I always take them, is it that we're getting 70 pt GH packs same as C:SM? If so, I wouldn't mind the 75 pt baked in CCW on each GH. That said, who goes without the CCW on GH's, or would, given the option to do so? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbyKroket Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Not me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatSmasher Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 So you would pay how many points for a bolter upgrade and a CCW? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3747997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiOfRuss Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 If GH were base 14 points and could take CCW's for an addition 1 ppm - that would be fair. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3748005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbyKroket Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 @catsmasher really depends on the cost without it, I would pay to bring it to 15 maybe 16 pts/model Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3748023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 it's certainly reasonable for them to cost 1-2 points per model more than vanilla marines, I think. If counterattack and acute senses were a chapter tactics I think they'd be fairly competitive with the other options. And unless more has changed, grey hunters have the advantage of 2 special weapons which is far preferable to 1 special and 1 heavy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3748083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Have we confirmed that the formation is inflexible - e.g. only 5 blood claws, etc? Because furious charge and some reroll thing when focus firing (can someone confirm specifics) are, imho, really cool special rules for the formation. But the actual unit composition is pretty crappy, making it somewhat wasted. If they'd only allowed dedicated transports and larger pack sizes in the formation, I could absolutely imagine fielding it even with krom's dumb rules. Ok, where do I email GW about the lack of runic armour? I think if enough people email in it's possible they might change it on a fluff basis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3748094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiOfRuss Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Have we confirmed that the formation is inflexible - e.g. only 5 blood claws, etc? Because furious charge and some reroll thing when focus firing (can someone confirm specifics) are, imho, really cool special rules for the formation. But the actual unit composition is pretty crappy, making it somewhat wasted. If they'd only allowed dedicated transports and larger pack sizes in the formation, I could absolutely imagine fielding it even with krom's dumb rules. Ok, where do I email GW about the lack of runic armour? I think if enough people email in it's possible they might change it on a fluff basis. No they won't. At best they'll tell you to build a generic Wolf Lord and call him Krom, or "play with whatever rules you and your opponent agree to." For that matter you can just ask the guy you're playing if it's ok if you pay for the Runic Armor upgrade on him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3748105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookieman Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 http://imgur.com/ChpmgN8 Looks like Ragnar Blackmane is on his way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3748115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 If Ragnar gets a new sculpt and better cost/rules split he is back in my lists just because he was the first character I ever experienced in 40k while I am a son of Baal the Rout will always be my brothers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3748120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookieman Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 On their way: Blood on the Mountain by Ben Counter (A Sanctus Reach novella) Iceclaw by Ben Counter (A Sanctus Reach audio drama) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293875-stormclaw-unboxing/#findComment-3748127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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