knife&fork Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Who's getting one? I need one or two of those baby-caestuses badly. Actually I like this one best of the normal GW space marine flyers! It's a bit on the small side but looks a lot more like I had hoped the storm raven would look like. Not as versatile as the storm raven but much better weapon options. My only concern is the lack of turret mounted weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I think I'll pass.Don't get me wrong, the StormBloodwolf will look good in black, but I've got far, far too much to do already. (Just spent £68 over at Forgeworld!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orblivion Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I was really hoping it would something like a taxidermized thunder wolf with engines strapped to it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I am a bit torn over it, I definitely prefer the Bus version over the Freeze-ray version. I didn't like the Caestus when that came out, now I love it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 What flyer are you talking about? I can't find anything fitting the description either on the GW or the FW site. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Callius Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Am I just being blind?! Just like Quixus I can't find anything anywhere, not even google pictures. Where is this thing? I want to get my geek on! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman101 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 there is a post about them in the rumor section http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294037-new-space-wolves-flyer-stormfang/ depending on how the bits come, i may convert one. but i dont want to spend too much time cutting off wolfy bits to do it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSauce Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I doubt the wolfy bits will be too hard to remove (probably just "add-ons" and maybe the front door panel). What will be hard is renaming the main gun: Bloodfrost? Bloodfury? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I doubt the wolfy bits will be too hard to remove (probably just "add-ons" and maybe the front door panel). What will be hard is renaming the main gun: Bloodfrost? Bloodfury? Doesn't seem like it was all that hard to me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Admetus Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Am I the only one that thinks it's the fugliest model there is? That thing's HIDEOUS. And I thought the Storm Raven was boxy... I'm just going to sticky tape a 15cm ruler to the top of a house brick and paint it blue. It'll look more aerodynamic... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 So this is the brick that killed Khârn. It all makes sense now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKobra Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Honestly... People complained about the storm raven and LIKE the SW flyer monstrosity?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Honestly... People complained about the storm raven and LIKE the SW flyer monstrosity?! I wanna say "Yes," but somehow I don't feel like that's the answer you're looking for... :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfThunder Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I personally like the stormraven, and love the stormtalon, both models look a lot better than the wolf flyers. At the same time, The transport one kind of fits the boarding torpedo theme quite nicely, and it's growing on me. The one with the big ray of doom looks quite awful. They're almost the same, but somehow they are very different. I think my brain justifies the brick with the transport capacity, and the assault ramp. But when you take that away, the brick doesn't make sense anymore. I'm not sure I'll be getting one. I kind of want to, but at the same time I already have a raven and I don't play games big enough to include both. Then again, I do want to play my Sons Of Thunder with the wolf dex, and I don't want to relly on allies to bring the flyer fun in, so I'll probably end up getting a stormfang. But for now I'll wait till the dex is out to decide if I really want to give it a go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fray Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Just curious; how would this fit into a Blood Angels army? Will you ally it in or will it be a proxy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Just curious; how would this fit into a Blood Angels army? Will you ally it in or will it be a proxy? I'll be running it with a SW detachment. I have some 'knights of blood' BA successors that can double for any allied marines. Just need to get rid of that wolf iconography. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfThunder Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I want Thunderwolf cavalry, so for me it'll have to be allies :) Being battle brothers, the DC can embark in the ram, so it fulfills a similar role to the Raven, with a different weapon loadout. Don't know which one I like more, but 2 twinlinked multi-meltas do sound nice, and a TL F6 FP3 Blast too :) (not to mention the TL LC) It would all depend on the slots each fill in the FOC, so need to see the codex first. Unbound is not hot in my group, battle-forged is the safe way to go. If both stormfang and thunderwolf are fast attack, and there's no way to make thunderwolves troops (as seen in one of them crazy rumours), I'd have to make the wolves my main detachment :O I'd never include the stormfang to proxy a stormraven. I like the raven model so much more :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 This thing may be ugly, but it's still only half as ugly as a caestus :p Will wait and see on this before deciding which to take. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 I'd have to make the wolves my main detachment I'd never include the stormfang to proxy a stormraven. I like the raven model so much more That's not how detachments work in 7th. A battleforged list can contain multiple 'normal' detachments, they are called combined arms detachments now. The difference is that you would have to pick 1 HQ and 2 troops minimum, just like main detachments worked in 6th. Pay that HQ and troop tax and you are free to max out any slot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 If it's easy enough to convert I might actually get one, just because I like all the flyers GW made so far ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfThunder Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Thanks Knife, you're right I could take 2 combined arms detachments, a wolf one and a BA one, it's just I keep thinking in terms of primary and allied :)...That would be legal too, wouldn't it?...Combined arms wolves with allied BAs? (or vice-versa)? I know troops are very important and all, but the other slots are just more fun ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Thanks Knife, you're right I could take 2 combined arms detachments, a wolf one and a BA one, it's just I keep thinking in terms of primary and allied ...That would be legal too, wouldn't it?...Combined arms wolves with allied BAs? (or vice-versa)? I know troops are very important and all, but the other slots are just more fun That's fine, but don't we BA have a ton of fun and spammable things as well? :) This thing may be ugly, but it's still only half as ugly as a caestus Them be fighting words! :P Honestly... People complained about the storm raven and LIKE the SW flyer monstrosity?! How can you compare the silly thunderhawk shortbus to this thing? :P Also this thing, stolen off the internets; http://i.imgur.com/mE5DnSW.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3751995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrunTeufel Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 How can you compare the silly thunderhawk shortbus to this thing? To be fair. Stormraven can be converted to look half decent. This thing on the other hand literally looks like a dogs head. I mean they are saying this thing is a flyer. The least they could do is to put some wings on it instead of dog ears. Shame because I kinda got excited when I heard the news. Oh well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3752142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Haha yeah, as far as ugly things are concerned, this baby really takes the cake. Our Storm Raven is a Kate Upton compared to that... thing. But in a way the Stormfang is so ugly, you kind of start to love it. Like a typical Nicholas Cage flick. And unlike us, the Wolves aren't really known for their aesthetic sense, so it kind of fits eh? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3752284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfThunder Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Regarding its fire arc, the guns mounted on both sides of the cockpit can only fire at ground targets that are really far away, or on the top of a building, otherwise they'd go through the hull. Also, when you fire the TLLC, how do you decide what it can see?...What if, for whatever reason, the target can be seen by one but not by the other?...or what if one is hitting side armor and the other one is hitting rear armor? (same thing could happen with the raven's turret TL guns) The turret cannon will have a similar problem with the hull and the wings. Fire arcs for flyers are poorly thought / defined, but in this case, the flyer has been designed so that shooting right in front is fine, anything else will see you argue with your opponent. The only guns that can consistently be used against ground targets are the sponsons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294042-that-new-sw-flyer/#findComment-3752332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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