HaSY Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 '' We were the First Legion, Brother Sapphon. Consider for that moment what that means. We had to do everything. We fought fleet actions and planetary assaults, razed fortresses and capture whole worlds. We were both the hammer and the anvil, the bait and the trap. We brought death from afar and slaughter at close hand. We acted and others followed. ''- Merir Astelan from Master of SanctityHopefully FW is able to capture our 6 Wings based on that statement. Ultramarines and Sons of Horus are nothing compared to us. Other legions are merely extensions and expansions of our own specialties. We are so grim dark that we do no need other support and our grim resolve is legendary.You can't hide! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyfish Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 It will indeed be interesting to see how Forge World tackle the Dark Angels. There are lots of potential directions to take; you've already mentioned the lone operatives angle, but there's also the access to technology not seen or used by other Legions (Unremembered Empire), the knightly angle taken from the Calibanites and the Lion himself, the Wings and the fact that the DA seem to prefer to operate alone. Other than the Wolves, there are few mentions of the DA fighting alongside other Legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 It'll be hard to capture the 6 wings with 2/3 Special Units, 2/3 Special Characters, the Lion, 3 unique pieces of War Gear, 2 special rules, and a Rite of War. I imagine they'll go for the technology that others don't have but I have no idea how they'll implement that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 If FW fail to capture the feeling of the first legion i Will start to hope that GW roll us on the vanilla codex to avoid further offences to pur beloved army... We were and we are the First Legion. We deserve some respect from GW/FW... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I'm sure FW won't disapoint. They have a soid track record. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I'm sure FW won't disapoint. They have a soid track record.If DA had 6 wings during HH we Will have 6 peculiar units/veichles?I hope so... ;) In FW i trust (btw FW saved our ugly Flying dept with SE, CAR, FR)... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Things is we only know about 4 wings, so I wouldn't get my hopes up for 6. I would only realy bet on RW/DW and maybe tehy make a bonus wing. But I am confident on the sculpts even if no new wings come. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Maybe just some sets of rules for the various wings without the need of models and then specific models For some RW/DW units... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I finished reading Unremembered Empire last week. I was drawn to the statement made that the DA had/have access to things that no other legion had, or perhaps even realized existed? There is a lot that could be created as a result of that statement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Conversion beamers come to mind right off. Man portable sized. Stasis weapons, PFGs, Displacement fields, etc.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenONE Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Well remember that Deathwing I don't believe exist until after the Heresy. If we do see anything, Jetbikes seem like something we'd see for sure. Maybe also some type of assault troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Deathwing and Ravenwing existed before the Heresy... The first is reporter in Unremembered empire (together with the Dreadwing)... The second in Descent of Angels (though as the order of the Raven's Wing of the feudal Caliban)... We know now that DA has or had Deathwing, Dreadwing, Ravenwing, Ironwing and that in total the first legion had 6 specialized wings (i guess the DA names For various companies)... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonBased Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Is FW doing something with the DA soon? I didn't catch any sort of announcement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Is FW doing something with the DA soon? I didn't catch any sort of announcement.According to FW Schedule the first units For DA Will be in 6th HH nook (about 1 to 2 years from now) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonBased Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Is FW doing something with the DA soon? I didn't catch any sort of announcement.According to FW Schedule the first units For DA Will be in 6th HH nook (about 1 to 2 years from now) Thanks, I guess I won't hold my breath or anything. Still it's something to look (far) forward to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I don't think I can wait that long... :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasmaspam Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Deathwing and Ravenwing existed before the Heresy... The first is reporter in Unremembered empire (together with the Dreadwing)... The second in Descent of Angels (though as the order of the Raven's Wing of the feudal Caliban)... We know now that DA has or had Deathwing, Dreadwing, Ravenwing, Ironwing and that in total the first legion had 6 specialized wings (i guess the DA names For various companies)... yeah, so: Deathwing - CQB Termies Ravenwing - Rapid Assault/Cavalry bikes and speeders Dreadwing - Infiltrators/Saboteurs/Scouts (i.e. 30k scouts in full PA with massive sniper rifles)?? Stormwing - Ship Boarding actions and Drop assaults?? Ironwing - Mobile Armour and Heavy Support?? Something-wing - Mobile Infantry?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Stormwing - Ship Boarding actions and Drop assaults?? MAYBE... If you read that it just says that it was an assault squad from the Stormwing. It doesnt say that, that is the only type of squad in the Stormwing or that they are ALL equipped with boarding shields. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I am looking forward to what ever FW brings out. Judging by some of the other legions, it's bound to be an awesome sculpt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Forgeworld' record isn't airtight, like how 1 of the Raven Guard specific equipment pieces became nearly useless and more of a burden really with the coming of 7th edition as well as our special flyer and Corax becoming less useful with the changes to Blind. Or how compared to the rest our rules are mediocre. However I should imagine they won't disappoint with the DA unless you expect too much (like 6 wings) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaSY Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 Dreadwing seemed to give the vibe of destroyer squad. More of phosphex and rad goodness. The voted lieutenant deathwing does not wear terminator armor. I imagine that deathwing akin to reaver squad. Stormwing are prolly breacher with power halberd If Nt Mistaken both voted lieutenant survived in unremembered empire Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3753947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[TA]Typher Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Not all legions had a specialty. For a few, DA, UM and maybe EC? Their specialty was that they could do everything. Tactical flexability. This is something that legions like the Iron Hands or World Eaters didnt have. Need a rapid assault... Check Need a endurance assult.. Check Need a heavy bombardment.. Check Need a to figure out a complex problem.. Check Etc... Etc.. Not all legions could do this.. Imagine Agron in a slow battle of attrition. Or Dorn haing to do a rapid lightning assault. Our specialty is that we can do it all. We are a legion without need for support, as we need nothing to compliment us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3754145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Yup, DA, EC, and UM are the "Jack of All Trades, Master of None" legions Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3754190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I want some "Forbidden Amory" goodies! The stuff so bad the Emperor said no, but the Lion said, "Maybe just this once." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3754321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Alright I rarely drop hints anymore but here's one. Since the first legion operated by itself for a rather long time and were capable of providing every role it needed, I urge you to look at the current Rites of War. Many of the wings can be done using them. The first legion is/was the consummate legion. If I were forge world I would focus on what makes the dark angels unique in that regard, archaeotech weapons, The Order etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294133-first-legions-specialty/#findComment-3754500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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