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As you all know, I have been building my Traitor Guard force up over the past year since I have been a part of the B&C as well gaining many new editions, either through the ETL or just for side projects.

I was hoping I could present to you all here a full list of everything I now own to perhaps get some advice on what further additions are needed, if any, and perhaps a few mock up lists from what I have for 500, 1000 and 1500 points.

 

Thanks guys, this is what I now have. I'll include the loadout they were built with but some extras can be added. Such as tank Camo netting - it has been built on but can be scrapped to save points.

 

HQ:

 

Pask in Vanquisher with Hull Lascannon and Dozer Blade.

 

Tank Commander (can be used as normal tank also) in Eradicator with Hull and Sponson Heavy Bolters and Dozer Blade.

 

Company Command Squad with 2 Plasma Guns, Medic, Vox.

Can add Nork and/or Master of the Ordnance or Officer of the Fleet (can count as one or the other).

 

Lord Commissar.

 

2 Commissars.

 

Priest.

 

Troops:

 

Infantry Platoon

Platoon Command Squad with medic, Vox and 2 Flamers.

3 infantry squads all have Vox and flamer. 2 have heavy bolter and 1 had an autocannon.

20 Conscripts.

Lascannon HWT.

 

Veteran Squad with carapace armour, Vox and 3 plasma guns.

 

Elites:

 

5 Bullgryns with power mauls and brute shields.

 

Fast Attack:

 

3 Scout Sentinels with Heavy Flamers.

 

Bane Wolf

 

Valkyrie with multiple rocket pods.

 

Heavy Support:

 

2 x Leman Russ Battle Tanks with Hull and Sponson Heavy Bolters and Dozer Blade.

 

Demolisher with Hull and Sponson Heavy Bolters.

 

Wyvern.

 

Basilisk.

 

LoW:

 

Imperial Knight Paladin

 

Stormsword with 1 or 2 Sponson Pairs.

 

And a final point of note as I'm sure it will come up - I don't use transports as I would rather use those points elsewhere.

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Never really used a flyer before. What would you recommend? I have a single Valkyrie but what else is good. Prefer codex to FW as I do not own any of the FW books.

 

Never really thought about plasma sentinels either, do they work at low bs/low armour walkers?

 

Would love an executioner though. With Pask in so I can switch between that and Vanquisher.

 

Thanks :)

Never really used a flyer before. What would you recommend? I have a single Valkyrie but what else is good. Prefer codex to FW as I do not own any of the FW books.

 

Never really thought about plasma sentinels either, do they work at low bs/low armour walkers?

 

Would love an executioner though. With Pask in so I can switch between that and Vanquisher.

 

Thanks :)

As for flyers I mix it up with valk and vendetta.

The vendetta is a fill in for ranged anti armour and back up impact squad drop ie PCS or SWS with flamers or melta/demo.

 

Valk tends to be a slightly more reliable way of dropping troops to the other side of the board than trying to get a chimera across.

 

I love plasma sentinels, cheap and more armour 12 saturation for 50 points. Helps your other armour survive by forcing the opponant to make difficult decisions.

 

I have recently been running 2 and a plasma executioner, having up to 7 blasts a turn is good. And if you roll a 1 now and then having a 4+ save is normally good enough to keep your hull points.

 

Ask away if you want more.

Liking the sound of the Sentinels and would love to get a couple more flyers in. It's just a shame they can't be dedicated transports as depending on the opponent, my fast attack could have a lot of competition if I added the plasma sentinels.

 

Been considering and executioner for a while now (if only as I think it will look great all painted up) so I think this will be my next purchase. How would one field it? I hear as Pask is great but what tank works best paired with it?

Liking the sound of the Sentinels and would love to get a couple more flyers in. It's just a shame they can't be dedicated transports as depending on the opponent, my fast attack could have a lot of competition if I added the plasma sentinels.

 

Been considering and executioner for a while now (if only as I think it will look great all painted up) so I think this will be my next purchase. How would one field it? I hear as Pask is great but what tank works best paired with it?

 

I use the executioner as a separate entity or as the second tank to pask because as long as he is the warlord, you get to re-roll the gets hot.

 

I personally use Pask in a Vanquisher or a Punisher.

 

 

As for other things, I use an Astropath for 25 points a steal to get invisibility if you have a lucky roll. Also remember because it is on one table you always get one + primary power.

Been considering and executioner for a while now (if only as I think it will look great all painted up) so I think this will be my next purchase. How would one field it? I hear as Pask is great but what tank works best paired with it?

I wouldn't waste Pask on anything with a template, you're effectively wasting his BS4.

 

Put him in anything with a direct firing weapon setup, i.e. Punisher, Vanquisher, or Exterminator.

 

In saying that, there is no choice imo. I love the Vanquisher.

That makes more sense, and is my preferred option as I like the Pask I have already in a Vanquisher as that was what seemed to be the best choice for him reading through the options. His higher bs and re roll to hit basically means he hits most stuff when shooting and seems likely he will one shot most vehicles too.

 

In that case, I'll still get an executioner but use it as either Pask's squadron tank or on it's own. Can split fire them anyway so if they are together it gets Pask's re roll to avoid gets hot while not being handicapped having to shot the same targets as him.

Pask is in a Punisher with sponson Multi-Meltas and a Lascannon for me. Makes for a very versatile Monstrous Creature / Vehicle hunter, that can also chew up elite units like Terminators.

I'm going to have to try that configuration, though I usually prefer to field specialised units

I don't want to state the obvious, but what do you want to add? That's the best reason there is :P I'd add a few more troopers and artillery so you can do an artillery company easily. Then you could add a few more Russes for a tank company and your army will be capable of almost anything. Otherwise others make fine suggestions :)

Deathstrike.

 

The doomsday device that splits every game in half, before and after launch.

It doesn't win games but it adds tension and placing 10" blast anywhere on table that has enough power to hurt anything is just...pricey?

Many think it's worthless one shot wonder but I personally never play a game without one.

Well for a start, I would love some Psykers as Kilofix suggested - don't know if they are any good, but I love the FW renegade models so I want those.

 

Punisher sounds great, as does the executioner, was not too sure on those too to begin with but I can see the value in them, and they present some nice painting/modelling options - the green I paint the plasma will look good with the rust and red tanks and I reckon I could model a forgefiend autocannon onto the punisher instead of it's standard loadout.

 

Death strike sounds fun, but has never appealed to me. I almost can't see my guys having such things but I'll have to give it some thought, even if I proxy it for a game as a test run.

 

Other than that. I don't really know what to get next. That is why I opened it up to the forum. I started by building a core of infantry with a few tanks before getting sucked in with more tanks (because they are awesome! And worth loads for the ETL ) then anything else I liked the look of. I really would like rough riders, even had a great idea to combine krieg ones with renegade torsos but that is so expensive.

 

Is the exterminator any good? Looking at the stats, it is my least favourite of all the tanks but I like how it looks and have some ideas for making it chaosy so am now considering it. Would be cool to have at least 1 of every variant.

I would like to try the Exterminator, especially as it's dirt cheap, but I'd rather run Autocannon teams instead and take an Eradicator. Pask really should be in either a Vanquisher or a Punisher, IMO.

 

I cannot overstate how much I like the Eradicator. It's ballin'.

Hahaha!!! ;D painting an Eradicator for the ETL now.

 

I think I have actually, got a bid on EBay for some Psykers and am looking online for some second hand unbuilt Demolisher boxes as I got my last lot like that and it was dirt cheap! Failing that though, I have been keeping an eye out for anything going cheap as if I can get a bargain I'm happy to add whatever.

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