Wade Garrett Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Specialty regiments that guard the Astropathic Quarters inside the Imperial Palace, mentioned in the Outcast Dead. They seem to specialize in both combating psykers and internal security on Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Interesting. I got kind of . . . bored with the book, and I was just sort of skimming through after a while. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 the amount of "Likes" I used in the last page or so in this thread borders on obscene. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Wade Garrett, on 23 Aug 2014 - 03:13 AM, said: Malcador put a Wolf watchpack on Rogal Dorn. Rogal. Dorn. Rogal Dorn. ROGAL DORN! Exactly. Doesn't it strike you as likely that there'd be story somewhere in that odd development? Secondly...I can understand sending Wolves to the Legions way out at the edge of the Imperium...but the Fists are ON TERRA. 'It's not our place.' Thirteen Stars Falling bared his teeth in a snarl. 'You send Howl of the Hearthworld away from all hope of war. The other packs gave no defiance because they aren't being chained up in a cargo hold and shipped to Terra. You gave them new battlefields. You offer us exile.' It's an A DB story and you guys are worried he's gonna it up? Where have you been since 2009? I have no doubt that ADB will nail it. I just think the wolf pack bit has been overdone I thought so, too. But that's kind of why I did it. Like I said a little earlier: I've not been the biggest fan of the watch pack idea in the past, and I wanted to do two things with it. Firstly, getting into it rather than dismissing it; to cheer the hell up and see what I could dig about the concept instead of avoiding it. And it worked - which goes to show you, saying "Yes" is often a wiser and more cooperative move with a better endgame than immediately saying "No". And secondly, doing that by showing it from a completely new angle. Not necessarily one where the Wolves (or even Russ) are all proud and pumped up to be doing it, for... several reasons. Part of this involved giving the idea itself more context, rather than what it simply appears to be on the surface. I hope I've done that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 >Gunsight. by James Swallow. An Assassin lurks on board the Vengeful Spirit. His target? Warmaster Horus himself. Just no. We've already had an assassin story, and it wasn't interesting because spoilers, Horus doesn't die till terra,and he won't die this time Wait, yet again ? How could everyone and his mother get aboard the Vengeful Spirit like it's absolutly nothing ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Apparently it's got big holes all over it that no one ever noticed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrafficCustodes Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 'Nemesis' ends with the main character, a Vindicare, heading towards the Vengeful Spirit in a fairly tricked-out vessel with pretty good cloaking (iirc). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterofMankind Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 'Nemesis' ends with the main character, a Vindicare, heading towards the Vengeful Spirit in a fairly tricked-out vessel with pretty good cloaking (iirc). I thought the died when he ejected himself from his exploding in a last ditch attempt to assassinate Horus Edit:Apparently the filter thinks s h i p is a cussword Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Are you sure you put it in ship and not something else by accident? Mistakes do happen and if you were using a mobile, well autocorrect does get funny sometimes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Ship ship ship ship ship. Looks solid to me.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterofMankind Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Are you sure you put it in ship and not something else by accident? Mistakes do happen and if you were using a mobile, well autocorrect does get funny sometimes. I swear I wrote ship but I could have gotten confused for a moment Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Hey, don't worry about it. Mistakes happen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrafficCustodes Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 'Nemesis' ends with the main character, a Vindicare, heading towards the Vengeful Spirit in a fairly tricked-out vessel with pretty good cloaking (iirc). I thought the died when he ejected himself from his exploding in a last ditch attempt to assassinate Horus Edit:Apparently the filter thinks s h i p is a cussword The last mention of him in 'Nemesis' is ambiguous. He sees a huge figure standing at a viewing port which he believes to be Horus, and he seems to be left with a choice of ejecting in the 'saviour pod' or doing a full kamikaze run through the window, A-Wing style. We don't know what he does, just that he says "I am the weapon". JS has said that the story in 'Death and Defiance' will tie in to one of his previous HH novels. It does feel like 'Nemesis' is most likely. It's not guaranteed that it'll be about Kell, but considering he was the only cast member in the vicinity of the Vengeful Spirit when that book ended, and he wasn't granted an explicit death-scene,it seems possible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Are most people picking this up at Warhammer Fest? Know it's released like the next day - was wondering how much more we knew about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrafficCustodes Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I'm just gonna order it online as I'm not going to WHfest... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Apparently it's got big holes all over it that no one ever noticed. "Shouldn't we close off this exhaust port? Ya know...like board it up or something?" "Nah man, we've got to think of the resell value! This is prime property we're sitting on...." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Hey, this isn't really a joking matter. Many ratlings died to get this assassin on board. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Hey, this isn't really a joking matter. Many ratlingssquats diedwere retconned to get this assassin on board. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Hey, this isn't really a joking matter. Many ratlingssquats diedwere retconned to get this assassin on board. ;) http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119363/3778956-wait+a+second.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3787868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I'm just gonna order it online as I'm not going to WHfest... Snap. Did you ever get Sedition's Gate? Hoping that goes to the Vault... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3788437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrafficCustodes Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Sadly I haven't - I'm sure it will get to the Vault eventually (well, I hope). I have vowed, though, that Sedition's Gate is going to be the last Heresy Weekender anthology I miss. I'm going to the rest of them and getting those anthologies even if it bankrupts me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3788480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelPaladin Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Just keep looking for it on ebay. I got my copy of Sedition's Gate for the retail price. No idea why the guy put it up so cheap, but oh well, I'm not complaining Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3788611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrafficCustodes Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 At the moment, looks like you're likely to pay double retail price... I'll keep looking. But with the very real possibility that it'll come to the BL Vault eventually, I'm happy to wait. (Probably be at least a year, considering how long it took 'Imperial Truth' to come to the Vault.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3788664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drooling blood Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Swallow and his again. Hes got the longest winded book's, with the most forgetable character's. None have been good. He doesn't have the heart of a angel, or the cold bloodedness of a assassin. GW should excomunicate him and his works. He's a wispy gottee stroking monobrowd alpha legion fat scout. Pretending to be a son of baal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3788892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Geez man you need to take a few deep breathes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294301-death-and-defiance/page/3/#findComment-3788896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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