Daemon2027 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Hi Guys Inspired by BCK's Crimson Sons, I want to try and put together some Raven Guard of the Nomad-Preditation fleet. The idea would be to use older armour marks such as II and III, with IV and maybe some VI left to recon elements. While I would use the Raven Guard rules I would try and include unconventional elements such as armour and TDA. For painting I think I will go for a very dark grey through to black, with off white for markings. I would like to include ash war paint as they will mostly be Terran marines. For background purposes I will try and explore the Terran heritage, with the Mor Deythan becoming Shade Walkers (thanks to 1000Heathens for the idea in previous thread of mine), and the Deliverers being an important unit. I am hoping to get the first model built tonight, a Dark Furry, possibly the Chooser of the Slain, but I wanted to ask a question. As the Nomad-Predatory fleets were not sent away till after Corax re joined the legion, I would imagine that the Terrans would have started to take on Deliverance/Kiavahr customs. So I will show them with the Raven symbol on their shoulder, but should I also include the raven skulls, and other motifs associated with the Raven Guard, or just keep them plain with the odd imperial motif? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millicant Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 You could legitimately do either I think. Question is: what sounds cooler to you? And which do you want to paint and model for your force? I tend to work backwards in that I want something to look awesome and then give it fluff to match. This might be a situation where you can do the same. Oh, and post pics! Should turn out great! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3759245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 I think I will use both sparingly, I always imagined the Raven Guard as a spartan legion, both before and after being united with Corax. I have plenty of Iron Hands bits which I plan to use as they look quite practical, and I wouldn't mind grabbing some Death Guard torsos. Any way, here is the test model, and first member of a Dark Fury Headhunter squad. I added a raven skull... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3759402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 He looks pretty damn awesome, a good start me thinks :) when I do my RG I'll be going the opposite, MkIV and VI armour, talismans and tribal markings and such. So it's cool to see the other side of the coin! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3759405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 Thanks, hope to start painting tomorrow. I still plan to have some tribal markings, based around the tribes that the XIX were recruited from. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3759414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I look forward to seeing the painted model :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3759423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millicant Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 That looks really cool. Very nicely done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3759586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 Decided to try and work out my black scheme, so I threw together a quick test model. Here is what I have so far, not sure how I should highlight. While I mull that over, I decided to build something. I like the way that the Raven Guard were the forerunners behind the Moritat's. Here is my take: I wanted a rough, hunter look, so I went with the destroyer body, and a mixture of armour. The power pack has just been placed there to see how he looks, I can't decoded if I should give him a cameoline cloak to finish the hunter effect. I went with one Plasma, one Volkite. It's nice to vary stuff up. I think I would eventually like to join him with a small group of Destroyers to hunt with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3762507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Oh hell yes, brother. Give him a ragged duster. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3762532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 Like a full on coat. That's kinda tempting. I'm thinking I will try BCK's tissue method on any cloth he will get. Definitely going for a group of destroyers built in a similar fashion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3763728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I have a question, what exactly is the Nomad - Predation fleet? I've seen the phrase quite a bit on here lately. And that last guy would look awesome with a duster :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3763751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 The original XIX Legion, while similar in style to Corax Raven Guard, were a lot more brutal and indiscriminate with collateral damage. This, coupled with their closeness to the Warmaster who they served with a lot before Corax was found, meant a lot of the Terrans were no trusted by Corax. So he sent away, beyond the edges of the galaxy, with sealed orders, under the guise of nomad predatory fleets, or with Rogue Traders, and didnt even recall them after Isstvan V. A lot of people see this as a hint to the birth of the Space Sharks. I see it as a chance to model the Raven Guard from a different angle. I like the cast out sons aspect, nit trusted by their father or legion, banished to the darkness. Sort of like the Night. But unlike the Night Lords my guys have returned to the galaxy, uncalled for, shattered but not broken, to fight for the Emperor, and hunt the traitors and grind them to dust. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3763769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Ah okay thank you. I knew about the PH RG being brutal and such, but didn't realise he actually sent them away like that. Cool that that's a hint to the Carcharodons, I was thinking of having some nods to the Space Sharks in my RG, and going for a darker element, this might be something to look into. I did still want to be Corax loyal though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3763774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 I must add, Corax didn't send all the Terrans away, I just think it was the ones he felt he couldn't trust. My guys were probably a little grey in Corax mind, so he posted them to war zones on the edge of the galaxy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3763779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 So I could still follow the darker, bit more vicious theme and have them still part of the main legion, fighting with Corax? Cool! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3763787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 Yeah. Also remember that the dropsite massacre would have had a massive impact on the survivors, which could make many turn to the original Terran tactics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3763808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Yeah good point, I imagine it would change people. Even in Scars, the White Scar librarian Yusegai or whatever starts to get darker and more ruthless, just from learning about the treachery, let alone being at the massacre. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294368-warriors-of-ash-and-shadow-legio-xix-nomad-preditation/#findComment-3763814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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