Ulrock Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Have any dkok players been turned away from tournaments? I contacted some tourney organizers in local area and they wouldn't allow forgeworld at all. I don't really get this argument, are they not the same company just different divisions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294424-krieg-in-tournaments/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Yes, I have experienced this. Astronomi-con (which I attended this past weekend), is in fact the only local tournament that allows Forge World. On the other hand, Astronomi-con does not allow Lords of War, Knights, and several of the larger fortifications, despite these being right in the main rule book. Forbidding Forgeworld seems to be fairly standard and I guess tournament organizers ban it for similar reasons to banning things like Knights or Lords of War -- they consider it unbalancing. I frankly think that the great majority of Forgeworld stuff is actually weaker than "mainstream" 40K but there are a few units that give it the bad rep I guess. I just chalk it up to being something within any given tournament organizer's discretion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294424-krieg-in-tournaments/#findComment-3760256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrock Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 To be honest I've never understood the whole balanced deal. There is no way to make a game like this perfectly balanced but ahh well. Thanks! For this tournaments how comparable USA regular guard list? Is it so different I should practice more with guard instead of krieg list? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294424-krieg-in-tournaments/#findComment-3760260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I would say you should definitely practice more with regular Guard. Krieg do play quite differently. In the tournament I just played, the biggest differences I noticed were not having to take leadership tests for 25% casualties to shooting (this was huge), and the presence of krak grenades on everyone. Plus the Krieg orders are totally different, especially now that the new codex is out, so you need to be used to what the Codex: AM orders do for quick decisions during the tournament. You would also be surprised at what a big difference WS 4 makes in close combat. If you're not used to regular guard you may find yourself in bad situations -- remember that during a tournament you do not have as much time to think, so you will fall back on what you're used to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294424-krieg-in-tournaments/#findComment-3760285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrock Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 So fall back to massed bayonet charges got it haha. Thanks I'll start working on a list and practicing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294424-krieg-in-tournaments/#findComment-3760519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Agreed with Nico - TOs can make whatever rules they like, so to make life simpler you should get some experience running your Kriegers as normal Guard as FW is often banned for convenience. I've never organised a tournament before but I can see where they're coming from as I'm sure there's enough to juggle as it is. Not that it helps FW lists, but such is life sometimes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294424-krieg-in-tournaments/#findComment-3760529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrock Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 What advice could y'all offer for tournaments and list construction? I'm thinking infantry heavy mixed with tanks. That's how I ran my krieg anyway. I've got till September before the next tourney Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294424-krieg-in-tournaments/#findComment-3760788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Lots of infantry with tank support is a good way to run any Guard list ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294424-krieg-in-tournaments/#findComment-3760976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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