Zeller Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 That is a ton of money for rule books. I love that they try to promote the Grimnar book as never before seen - it's brand freaking new of course it's never been seen before. The sled, the dreadnought wielding an axe and shield, the promethium propellant lines missing from the heavy flamers...come on. Fantasy, warmachine, and a bad design choice. Space wolves take space marines over the line of cool and into silly and exceptionally dumb. Really, I want to like them because overall they have a good paint scheme and look alright but then you have things like this. Then on principle the marines are generally cheaper and do more than other equivalents which is annoying. Templars, nope, Blood Angels, nope. Rant over. Didn't realize I posted in the SW forum as I thought I was in amicus for some reason. *embarrassment intensifies* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3763535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haakon_Stormbrow Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I should probably add something so as not to mislead others. The Grey Hunter entry screen shot I've seen did not include optional wargear so it is possible you can buy a CCW for each GH, but as it stands...GHs get bolter/BP and the wolf guard pack leader is the only one with a CCW. dude grey hunters are 14 points now if you want em cheap and nasty, they cost an extra point over 5th ed which is still a point or 2 cheaper than 3rd ed. they buy special weapons at marine prices and don't get the free special weapon. in my opinion this is great, marines will stop bitching at us for being over powered as we are now as much as their guys only with more options. And we are far cheaper then chaos who have to pay 17 points a model to have the same layout with counter charge (although they get rage) compared to blood claws they pay 3 points extra per model for khorne (again they have ws 4 and bs 4) i think we still have the best troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3763600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Don't forget the option for ccw. I think it's almost always better to have the option to buy some. That way you can save points if you know they won't see any melee that game or invest that extra bit to make them allrounders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3763743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haakon_Stormbrow Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 i think it rare to not take ccw, the only list i see it feasible against is elder, since bolt guns are better then shrunken catapults. but against tau, get to combat, against nids, they will get to you in combat, so you can't use it against armies that have better shooting or better assault so the only lists it works against is where regular marines are the better shooting and close combat unit then their average unit, in other words where your quality of troops is superior. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3763749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Scourge Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 That's how I see it Haakon. I'd have no problem if they kept GHs the same, but increased the cost to 16 or even 17 pts. Making them grey Ultramarines by default is just weird. On one side you have one of, if not the, best troops choices in the game. On the other you have tactical marines. Most people are just going to pay the 16 pts. At least that's what I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3763989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
viddar Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I think most people will pay sixteen points as well. I ordered the long edition and it probably will be the first and last collector's edition I buy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Yeah, I also got the Long Fang Edition. I prefer Silver to gold and I will safe money if I get Grimnar Supplement separately. 6 more artworks? Meh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
viddar Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Yeah I'll get the supplement at some point but I like using my own characters too much for champions to be a high priority. The extra prints were tempting but for me it wouldn't have been worth it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Normal Codex, cards and a Canoness for me. One of these things is not like the others, but it got me free shipping.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 From a pure optimisation standpoint, it might pay to leave at least 1 GH without a tri-weapon load out, because you will often take casualties before the front model gets to strike. Of course, it leads to annoying book keeping and complexity so I might not bother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haakon_Stormbrow Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 one good idea i can see is take 5 grey hunters, no upgrades for 70 points and put them in the stormfang, then in the last 2 turns use them for objective securing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I pre ordered at my LGS. And for the cost of the ling fang edition I will be getting 2 dreads, 1 codex and the objective cards Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthstar Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 You know you have a great LGS when they preorder the book and the cards for you without even asking or charging you a thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I can get the electronic codex for 22 pounds. Still too much but far less overpriced than the hard copy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 You know you have a great LGS when they preorder the book and the cards for you without even asking or charging you a thing. Yep, ordered mine through the LGS, along with the cards. I can pick them up any time after Noon on Friday, so I'll be swinging out on my lunch break. This'll be much better than the debacle with my 7e rulebook set ordered through the GW website, that didn't arrive to my house until a full week after the release, despite having preordered at the beginning of May. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Moonwolf Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Pre ordered the regular codex, cards, and a dread kit myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Oh, and normal edition for me. I just can't justify the extra cost for either of those limited edition options. I probably won't get the supplement, as I play Ragnar's GC, not Logan's. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rift Blade Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Yeah, was gonna go an order the WG Ed., told GW to take my money......& they wouldn't. How often does that happen???!!??? LOL!!!! Settling for the regular codex & cards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Ship on aug 9, how does that work with stores? Will stores have the codex to sell on august 9? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookieman Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 GW stores will have the codex on 9 August. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Ah, good. Thanks for the answer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I ordered the Long Fang Edition this morning. Don't know if I will ever play wolves again They were my first army when a friend gave me some scrap marines back in 1991. He changed from Marines to Eldar and I changed from painting Ral Partha to painting Games Workshop LoL Who knows though. If these are indeed the wolf times, as they claim............. Long Fangs like me will hear the call of Russ and make our way back to the Fang. If so, I will at least have the Codex and plenty of warriors ready when the time comes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacewolf407 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Normal codex for me as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultradad74 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 No comment until I actually have a physical copy of the book in my hand. I will build bodies and paint bodies from stormclaw, but some of the grisled vets of the pack here have given this pup the good advice to not add arms just yet. But here here to not being 14 (so 26 years ago for me!) and liking ridiculous, although with my original army being Blood Angels a couple years back, the new Space Wolves seem very tame as far as ridiculousness goes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbell84 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Anyone bought the interactive ios codexes before? I know they are overpriced but what does it offer? I always hoped for a full army list creator with active lunks etc I imagine this is way off the truth...? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294537-codex-pre-orders-are-up/page/2/#findComment-3764952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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