alpro Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Morning all, As would be expected the chariot rules for logan have been leaked and make him pretty tasty in combat. whilst i like the idea of him fighting and smashing heads from atop a grav vehicle, the sled hes pictured in is terrible. I have been thinking that i would like him to be mounted on something and the only thing i have come up with for now is a landspeeder storm!! If i can postion a model correctly, i would have him leaning forward ready to smash face! What do you guys think? are you planning on using something else? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Before we can get to converting, we need to hold that thing in our hands to see how it is build and what its dimensions are. The thing I can say for sure is that I will exchange the TWC with Screamers because I am going for a marine style ('marine' as in 'ocean'). If you are looking for a more realistic version, I suppose mechanizing it would be an option. You basically make some sort of flying mini base out of it like a mobile command center or the Speeder you mentioned. As for me, I love the absurdity of it personally. Logan being a Lord of War, it really makes me think of Donar (or Thor, if you are living further to the north) riding into battle on his Chariot. I mean he is a living legend after all and now having a unique FOC slot for himself, anything but a sledge would be wildly inappropriate IMHO :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3766436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Need to actually see the model in real life, as so far only jsut seen one photo, on which the angle aint great. The one thing i would be looking to do so far though is putting the wolves more to the sides of the chariot, rather than at the front. In this way it'll hopefully look less like they are pulling it and more like they are just there to eat stuff (which is how id image it - why do you need wolves to pull a grav sled with engine) - in the one fluff picture ive seen of it too..the reigns on the wolves are actually slack, giving the impression they are simply running infront/alongside the sled - like taking a dog for a run whilst on a bike :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3766450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Hey, maybe it wasn't an actual picture of Logan going to war, but rather Logan taking his pups out for a walk in his new weekend sledge which he uses on sunny days to get a nice tan. Aight, here's my conversion idea: Logan sitting there like pimp master general, big sun screen umbrella, some guys mixing a nice drink and some slave girls. Like Jabba the Hutts party boat, only more awesome :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3766462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Personally I don't mind the way he looks now, I was more worried they gave him a wheel or drag chariot but thankfully it is a grav platform, which would make the Wolves easier to pull and fight at the same time. I hope the chariot has some electronic control panels inside to show that it doesn't entirely depend on the wolves for locomotion, which would give the wolves freedom to rip and tear. Also would make the chariot not so anacrhonastic, actually having some technology. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3766548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Yes it does. Look at grot orderly site for pic details of the chariot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3766553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Kravin Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 My intention is, like the OP, to convert him a personal landspeeder storm based command vehicle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3766622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 My intention is, like the OP, to convert him a personal landspeeder storm based command vehicle. jetbike!! just kidding. Think i have a landspeeder chassis kciking about a bits box somewhere i may need to take a look at. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3766683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I love this new model and the idea of it, but if I was to convert it out of something else I would look for an actual viking long boat model kit. If I had more patience and time a Dark Eldar boat could make a great base for the conversion, size dependent, of course. End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3766698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 If anything, I will try to make it more fantasy styled. Taking Donar and his goat sledge as an example and working from there on. Myth mixed with high end tech. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3766706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Like Valhallan boats in tje Avengers2 movie? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3766845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Never seen it and probably not going to considering how these guys tend to butchers northern mythology. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3766925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiltedMarine Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Nadir hath the right of it, methinks. ::cough:: Sorry. Had some comic book in my throat, there. Seriously, though, *if* I used a different model, I'd either go with "Asgardian magical tech," or do something with a speeder to look more like a chariot with an actual driver a la the "Tain bo Culaigne." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3766928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I just want to see this model. I am still in shock over the concept. (Shakes head) Makes my brain hurt. I mean I know it is in line with Odin mythos and all that but darn, double darn..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3766954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintermane Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Since terminator armor is supposed to be originally designed to fight in the tight quarters of space ships, I would think the armor would have some sort of thrusters. You know just in case you got sucked out of the ship into space you would need them to get back. So I was thinking of building some sort of framework around his armor that allows for larger thrusters that can be used in atmosphere. The weight of the armor wouldn't allow him to be a high speed flyer or make jumps, just hover along the ground at slightly higher speed (that covers the hover/sled part). The frame and thrusters would be like extra armor (that would cover the armor stats for the sled). Then just like other Wolf Lords have Fen wolves that accompany them, Logan, being the Wolf Lord of Wolf Lords, would be accompanied by two thunderwolves. That's the idea I have in my head anyway but like everyone else I'll have to see the model to know if I can pull it off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3767084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I saw the "thing" just today and was just about as appaled as when I saw the Thunder Wolf Cav models. I dislike the idea of massive wolves riden by space marines and pulling a chariot is just worse. GW makes some really good models, but then they turn around and make some really bad ones too.... If I could ever get my rear moving on what I think Thunder Wolves should be (think pentient engine Space Wolf style or some what like that Grey Knight Dred where you see the guy, just smaller) then I could do something like Dwarf Shieldbearers from fantasy. To me it should of been something like Dwarf Shieldbearers to start with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3767162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Your opinion dude. I seriously like the TWC and while I think the sled is absurd, I still like it. Nice model design and nice'n'cheesy. While I do not think the sled has a place in serious lore (depending on your suspension of disbelieve), I do think TWC do have a place and offer a very nice touch. I bet people wouldn't overreact about TWC if SW didn't have so much 'wolf' in them already. Besides, it's the same thing every time.. Dreadknight, Helldrake, TWC, Centurions, you name it. And after a while people calm down and do their own thing again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3767172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I just want to see this model. I am still in shock over the concept. (Shakes head) Makes my brain hurt. I mean I know it is in line with Odin mythos and all that but darn, double darn..... http://www.beastsofwar.com/warhammer-40k/space-wolf-logan-grimnar-storms-sled/ Immersturm: I am aware that it is my opinion, and I understand that a lot of people like TWC models. I too like what they bring, but I personally can't stand the idea of it in a sci fi setting. I debated this a long time ago with people when they came out, so wont really do it again. There are countless other things I really dislike in GWs range, not because of the rules, but because of what the models look like. I haven't seen the rules for Logan's little parade float, but it is Logan so he has to be tough and I actually like how he looks on the thing, I just have an issue with: 1 somehting like a chariot in 40k and personally 2 the Thunder Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3767258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Well I am huge fan or animals and nature so it is obvious that I welcome the adition of TWC in the fluff. But hey, to each his own. I still think Centurions look silly :D But back on topic. I had a thought on how to do my pimp mobile and here's what I will probably do: Keep the TWC but connect them in a more traditional sense (actually give them reigns and such) as opposed to the way they are now. The chariot itself will be turned into a hunting chariot. I will add weapon racks with bolters, spears and trophies. It's basically a way to go hunting (be it a big game or enemies of mankind), taking inspiration from old germanic/norse hunting parties and Wodan himself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3767583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 I think I would buy the model just for the dismounted version of Logan. Heck the Wolves are not even charging in the same direction. Just Logan's luck to get a wolf with ADD. Or maybe Lukas was up to his old tricks again..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3767601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haakon_Stormbrow Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 saw this on the space wolves page on Facebook: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3767807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 "Hangin' our drinkin' in the back of an El Camino!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3767846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 That is actually bloody hilarious. "They see me rollin'. They hatin'." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3767869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haakon_Stormbrow Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 thats the spanish version , he's called el presedente Logan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3767871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Kravin Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Like Valhallan boats in tje Avengers2 movie? I think it was Thor 2. After I saw that movie at the cinema last year I came on here and cheekily posted that I'd seen the new Space Wolf flyer as I thought there was a good chance of someone from GW going to the cinema and thinking "Aha!". After all, at Games Day Matt Ward told my friend that the Deep Striking Land Raiders in the Blood Angels codex were the result of him seeing the A-Team movie! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294663-alternative-logan-sled-model/#findComment-3768803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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