Heimdall Skullcrusher Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 One thing for certain though, the massive cost decreases for our HQ is going to help pay for some of the Grey Hunter and Long Fang increases. Although in case of Long Fangs, I think the increase for missiles and decrease in Lascannons kind of evens out if you are the player which normally mixes Las with Missiles. The problem is with the fire control/split fire chance you are probably only going to go with one lascannon and I'm not sure how effective that will be. I always found 2 was better to help make sure you hit something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3772463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I'm sure as hell not giving up my wolf pack/tac squad fancy boltgun pose GH kitbashes and I'm also not letting a GH of mine set foot on a battlefield without proper gear, so I'm just going to have to tell my opponents that all my GH squads have the CCW upgrade to the last man regardless of whether they're modelled carrying chainswords or aiming boltguns and let that be the end of it. Hopefully I won't miss out on many games on account of people refusing to play against me as a result - can't be too many people that hung up on wysiwyg and the folks in my LGS frequently counts-as and proxy stuff so I should be fine. I'll probably build more one-handed boltgun/CCW GH minis in the future, though, or fix bayonets on two-handed boltguns as a nod to the CCW upgrade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3772545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT_Cennar Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 11 in total. not all of them exactly ilegal but to some point unnecessary equiped. 1 Lone Wolf in TDA with MoTW 4 Grey Hunters with Standarts (removed them easily) 6 TDA Wolfguards mostly Stormshield/Energy weapon replacing issues and 4 squads of GHs mixed weapons which i WONT remodel and just play them as i want/need.. sometimes no WYSIWYG but as long as my opponent doesnt complain im fine.. if he does... there are others ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3773743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Commander Scrymgeour Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I don't really play that much anymore. Is wysiwyg still a rules issue? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3773775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT_Cennar Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 on tournaments i think so. in my LGW the manager says its okay if i tell my "enemy" taht GHs have this or that layout .. as long as you dont tell ppl that the wastebin is an Warlord class Titan most ppl are okay Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3773780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 At first glance, all I've fully lost are the TDA CF/SS Lone Wolves I did for ETL (a bit grating, all that effort and they never saw battle). But those big Thunder Hammer-esque chainblades will now be thunder hammers. Grey Hunters don't matter, all my guys have carried blades since before Ultra Grit was a thing . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3774649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Commander Scrymgeour Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Rereading this thread, those of you who have standard bearers..... PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE THEM! they look awesome, and I'd rather face someone with an awesome looking army, than one that is technically correct. It's pretty easy for me to remember "this unit with the cool armour and weapons is the HQ and this unit of grey hunters with a banner is just a unit of grey hunters" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3774811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I have yet to find any models invalidated in my army. That said, I now need to get six Rune Priests Psychic Hoods; sounds like a job for some shoulder pads that are sadly going to get some clipping to fit them into shape and place them properly upon the models. Hm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3774818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarter Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Do include models that are now too expensive to use? If so, I have a dozen missile firing Long Fangs and no particular way to change them to Plasma Cannon. I too have the chain fist + storm shield termies, fortunately some are magnetized. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3774895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Missile fangs are fine. Missile Launchers on devastators work fine in codex marines, they're fine on Long Fangs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3774911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT_Cennar Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Rereading this thread, those of you who have standard bearers..... PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE THEM! they look awesome, and I'd rather face someone with an awesome looking army, than one that is technically correct. It's pretty easy for me to remember "this unit with the cool armour and weapons is the HQ and this unit of grey hunters with a banner is just a unit of grey hunters" I for one never liked my Wolfstandarts to much.. i chopped the "Head" of from Powerhammers and glued the Backpack-standarts from the GreyHunters box on top.. So kinda had PowerStadarts hehe. So wasnt a big Loss and Thats only on 2 models, the other "standarts" are displayed different. One is the Vox-Horn? (donno the english term looks like a Drinkinghorn) from Thunderwolf cavalery Box glued into the hand of a Marine so it looks like he is blowing into it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3775547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Iam redoing some stuff, but mainly cause those models have been made ages ago, my skill have improved now. Stil keeping my Stormtalon in SW colours, i be using an allied attachment for that as i also got a liking to Pyromancy, and for that i need a Marines psyker (using SW Runepriest model for that). Never had specific Lonewolves or such as i just picked one of my infantry models to perform in that role (like Lore would suggest having there unit being KIA.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3775557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baulder Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 For me it wasn't too bad, 1 LW TDA (CF/SS) and 1WG TDA (FA/SS). Also if I read this correctly one of my rune priest has a runic sword but it appears that axe is listed in their inventory. I didnt spot the upgrade available but tbh I didn't look long. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3775674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 For me it wasn't too bad, 1 LW TDA (CF/SS) and 1WG TDA (FA/SS). Also if I read this correctly one of my rune priest has a runic sword but it appears that axe is listed in their inventory. I didnt spot the upgrade available but tbh I didn't look long. It's there, may exchange the axe for sword or stave for free. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3775709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatEscape_13 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I'm only going to have to change a few terminator weapon load-outs for regular unit types (I liked power/frost weapon and storm shield in the prior codex, and had a couple of those). And I was lucky that both my Rune Priests are axe-tastic. All in all, pretty good on that front. Cheers.Andrew Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3775874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baulder Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 For me it wasn't too bad, 1 LW TDA (CF/SS) and 1WG TDA (FA/SS). Also if I read this correctly one of my rune priest has a runic sword but it appears that axe is listed in their inventory. I didnt spot the upgrade available but tbh I didn't look long. It's there, may exchange the axe for sword or stave for free. sweet, then just 2 models off the top of my head. And about 10 WG in PA that are sadly well over priced for what they do (time to head to ebay for some jump-packs) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3775889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 GW sells jump packs of their site, bitz and then backpacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3775895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baulder Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 GW sells jump packs of their site, bitz and then backpacks. indeed, at GW prices too. Though you're right it should prob be my first stop Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3775923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haakon_Stormbrow Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Both my Chain Fist / Storm Shield Lone Wolves are useless now. Even though they both reaped an impressive tally of foes in their time. I'll miss them, and then model up some more. I need more terminators... End of Line you could always use them as wolf lords Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3776451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatSmasher Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I made a whole bunch of combi weapon wolf guard recently... Not that pleased with their new costs. Wondering now if I should sacrifice some of them and build out some bikes or jump packs... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3776849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoran Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Got my Codex yesterday. Like a whole bunch of you guys I have to remodel my Lone Wolf since the CF-SS no longer is a thing. Got a few WGPL that seems a bit overpriced now aswell but from a rules point of view I only lost 1 model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294861-invalidated-models/page/3/#findComment-3778251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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