Fire Golem Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Awesome! I didn't know they were known for their independent streak, that makes them more appealing to me, means I can add more character to individual models. What exactly are the Ash Blind? Sounds awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3772956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 From memory, the Ash Blind were those whose eyes went completely black and were sent on solo killing sprees to keep them away from others. After they were key in Guilliman losing a 'game', the Moritat were born. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Just to note, some of the Raven Guard were afflicted with the black hair, eyes and pale skin of their father, but not all. As for the Ash Blind.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 So...an army of Moritats? That...that sounds devastating. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Umm... think of them more like Death Company, but a touch more sane, a touch more morbid. A whole army of them would be a one time use kinda thing, lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Well, yeah true their numbers wouldn't be in the Thousands, but grouped up together from across the Legion? I can see 100+ being possible, but as you said would be a one trick pony of death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Anyhow, if I was going to organize a Moritat Army, it would be the Imperial Heralds. 3x Destroyers w/ Jump 4x Assault 3x Ashen Circle 2x Support squads w/ melta and flamer, loaded up in Caestus Burn it all... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I can see it working but what would you take as HQs? Chaplain? Considering its WB that would be the most fitting, but what about a Vigilator or Primus Medicae with Jump Pack? Moritat Consul seems like a forgone conclusion, though they'd be taken on as an extra HQ. I think Raven Guard would work the best (since its where they originate from :p ) Infiltrate/scout that many mid-close range units and have a bunch of Storm Eagles/Fire Raptors/Darkwing Strom Eagles to provide extra fire power and I think you've got something decent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 For the XVII Legion, you MUST select a Champion or a Chaplain as a second HQ. So, for me, I'll be making a Praetor (so I can get the Angels Wrath rite of war), and a Chaplain who will act as my Herald. Because....well, because. :P Fluff is my master. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Is that bit of fluff from Extermination? Hopefully my copy will arrive today. Or tomorrow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Yes sir. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Indeed it is sir! Wont tell you the page since we'd rather you read ALL the fluff! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Believe me I will ;) can't wait to get stuck in now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 This. Maybe you can make some "Loyalist" Night Lords and Alpha Legion to go with your Raven Guard. Hey, whoa, easy there, chief. What's with the quotation marks, wink, and the sass? Do you doubt the VIII or XX had loyalists? On topic, the best advice I can offer for your decision is which paint job would you hate to the do the least in large quantities? How does empirical science work again? If there is no evidence..... ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 This. Maybe you can make some "Loyalist" Night Lords and Alpha Legion to go with your Raven Guard. ;) Hey, whoa, easy there, chief. What's with the quotation marks, wink, and the sass? Do you doubt the VIII or XX had loyalists? On topic, the best advice I can offer for your decision is which paint job would you hate to the do the least in large quantities? Seeing as I have hardly painted in years it's hard to know. Saying that I painted a RG test last night, metals just need a little highlighting, and it wasn't to bad, and having a look at SSC shadow force dragomir he mentions that by adding individualism into each model it helped keep the painting interesting. The Nomad Predation fleets were mentioned on the same page, 138. Also noted on page 140. What I found interesting was that, even after the bloodbath of Istvaan, Corax made no attempt to call back the Predation Fleets at all to bolster his Legion's numbers. He despised their bloody tactics that much. It was the Nomad Predation fleet that really stands out to me in the RG background. What I like is that, one, their numbers are not recorded, and two, the fact they were not recalled leaves them a s a wild card. Join the rebellion, sure they fought more with Horus then with Corax; do their own thing, why not, it's a big galaxy, they are on the edge of it, why not take a slice. But what I really like is that after saying up the options they will remember their oaths of loyalty to the Emperor and to the planet which birthed them, and when the Traitors start their siege, the ash clad will hunt from the shadows. The Nomad Predation fleets were mentioned on the same page, 138. Also noted on page 140. What I found interesting was that, even after the bloodbath of Istvaan, Corax made no attempt to call back the Predation Fleets at all to bolster his Legion's numbers. He despised their bloody tactics that much. Instead he tried some other stunt. I can't remember the details, something about him trying to clone gene-seed so his legion could quickly join the fight again but the apothecaries of the legion ended up being alpha legion members and the gene-seeds were tainted and mutated and it further destroyed the legion through bloody infighting.Originally(as in Pre-Gav Thorpe nightmare of nightmares), Corax made actually clones. The problem was that these clones mutated into raven-like monsters who Corax then used as shock troops to break apart well-defended Traitor positions and this went on until after the Scouring. Then, with each of the clones locked in their own cell in the Raven Tower, he went to each with a bolt pistol in one hand and granted them the Emperor's Mercy by his own hand. Shortly after that, he went into self-exile and was lost to Imperial record.Then we get Gav Thorpe. Who decides to have plot-armored Alpha Legion infiltrate the Raven Guard. And Corax instead uses the Emperor's gene-tech to create super gene-seed. Omegon sabotages said gene-seed, which creates the mutants. And then after a series of "almost found out but for the grace of Gav Thorpe" the Alpha Legion infiltrators reveal themselves for the sole purpose of dying. Aye, Gav destroyed that. But I had an idea, as the Predation fleet were their own entity, there is nothing to stop them taking part in their own experiments leading to the creation of the Weregeld as they were meant to be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Raven Guard test: I feel it's only fair to do a Night Lord one today. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 That's a really nice mini chap - what do you use for the weathering on the feet/legs? Also will your NL tester be lightning-heavy, a little along large flat areas or bare midnight-clad? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Cheers dude, just weathering powder. Not really that competent with it past mixing it up and slapping it on the base and the feet, but it seems to work. Here's the Night Lord, well sort of. I haven't washed the metal or done stuff like bolt pistols and the pipes, and I used a rough brush. Really fun to paint though. I wanted a colour difference from bottom to top, like an early night sky. The lightening is a bit off but as a first attempt I think it's ok. Still no closer, both were a pleasure to paint, but the Night Lords would probably look more attractive in a group, especially if I can get the lightening neater. I'm leaning towards the VIIIth, may re read prince of crows. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 The NL looks awesome. But so does the RG. From what you've been saying it seems like you're leaning toward NL. I struggled between the two as well so like I said I'm doing both, is that an option? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Dude, that raven guard looks sick. I'd keep him, If I were you. Y'know, there were members of the VIII Legion who were outsiders to their own Legion as well.... A union of the Pale Nomads and the Crimson Sons would be an amazing thing to see.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Both, hmmmm...Pale Nomads and Crimson Sons. That could be an option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I love your Crimson Sons Heathens :) yeah the outcasts of the two legions working together... That would be a savage nightmare to face on the battlefield. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Yep I'm sold. I think it will be an advanced expedition fleet, the sort that is more rogue trader and Cossack style imperial army regiments then Imperial Fists and Custodes. Still loyal though. Well sort of. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 To be honest, BCK's Crimson Sons are the standard to set, in my eyes. But, I try. Thank you for the compliments. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294876-another-which-legion-post/page/3/#findComment-3773691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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