Apok Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I have been playing SW for about 2 years now and the only real use i had for outflank was for scout squads (before the nerf).when you use outflank the unit arrives turn 2+ and then it has to wait for a turn before making an assault.besides using it to deliver a squad with meltas or plasmas to an opponent's flank (which can be done far better by using a drop pod) what any other real, competitive use is there for outflank?i can't see how it can be usefull for thunderwolves as they wont get shot turn 1 but they will charge turn 3 at best, maybe later.in most of the games i play (and i always bring a full squad with a big bad HQ) they manage to get in CC by turn 2, and casualties aren't serious, except when faced with tau, but then again who can get unharmed through their firepower...So, fellow wolf players, anything i have missed about outflank usefullness?or am i right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294885-why-sw-players-like-outflank-so-much/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Nope, you're right. Except for "shooty" packs, like my old 6x Plasma Hunter pack, Outflank is about useless. It definitely isn't anything special for assault-oriented units. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294885-why-sw-players-like-outflank-so-much/#findComment-3771938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 If a squad is in a transport and gets to outflank so dose the vehicle imagine a storm wolf outflanking... Side armor shots on most things are doom or better yet the storm fang Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294885-why-sw-players-like-outflank-so-much/#findComment-3771940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
viddar Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I struggled alot with outflank for awhile because of the reasons you mentioned. That said shooty squads with it like Valerian's can be really impressive, and the threat of them restricts your opponents movement. Its also worth pointing that any alternative deploment ability tends to be good because it increases the flexibility of your list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294885-why-sw-players-like-outflank-so-much/#findComment-3771977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krimsonkilla Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 looks to me like a solid scare tactic to bunch up your opponent in the middle. a solid GH squad or 2 could help you "direct traffic" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294885-why-sw-players-like-outflank-so-much/#findComment-3771999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedorarogue Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Even with it being used as a scare tactic in general it removes chunks of your army from the table and most lists with good shooting with pound those weakness bad! Less targets for them to shoot so they kill your other utility units (ex.Long Fangs) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294885-why-sw-players-like-outflank-so-much/#findComment-3772870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Even with it being used as a scare tactic in general it removes chunks of your army from the table and most lists with good shooting with pound those weakness bad! Less targets for them to shoot so they kill your other utility units (ex.Long Fangs) For me a good opponent would be targetting those units the first couple of turns anyway... but aye, I had a unit i loved to outflank, which had 2 plasma guns, a wulfen, a WGPL with motw and 2 p.pistols, and a wolf priest with p.pistol - the unit was ace at shooting the turn it arrived (7 plasma!) and then needed to be dealt with before it assaulted. Being able to come in from either table edge made it a nce thing for an opponent to have to worry about throughout the game...also gives you an easy 'linebreaker'. but yeah, the good thing about getting the new 'bonus outflank', is that you could get it across multiple units. But, if your opponent deploys first, you dont have to use it - despite the fact they may still deploy with the idea in mind that you will be outflanking 2-3 units... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294885-why-sw-players-like-outflank-so-much/#findComment-3773174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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