Revisiting Knight Titans - some questions

[CommodusXIII]

 

Interesting notion. As the Knight Companion mentions some Knights actually joining Titan Legions temporarily or permanently and has one example Knight in their painted examples with a Titan Legion emblem on one rear-half shoulder (the Cockatrices) then through the Organisation perspective you could have a Knight-titan, so long as the Knight is part of a titan legion.

 

 

Which is something I've exploited for my own Knight Household.  I'm a huge fan of Titans but I obviously can't field one in normal games, so I twisted the Imperial Knights to suit my purpose.  I definitely have a foot on both sides of the fence on this issue. 

 

Going by the established fluff, however, this seems like a very rare occurrence.  More often than this, you have Households that are fiercely independent and value their autonomy above all else.  Even those Households with close ties to the Mechanicus - take, for example, House Krast - would be quite out of sorts if the Mechanicus exerted dominance.  Households appear to be mostly bound by honor and pledges of fealty but that loyalty has bounds, as seen with House Cadmus in Knights of the Imperium.

 

The general trend in GW fluff these days is the freedom to do what you want.  Knight Households may be written to be independent entities, bound by medieval traditions and a quasi-techno-feudal system of government, but GW has written enough one-off plot hooks that you can do anything with some measure of justification.  Do you want Knights to be Titans?  Well, that might not be how the background has been established but what the hell, you paid hundreds of dollars to buy into them so you can do whatever you want.  I see Knight Households being just as varied as Space Marine Chapters and Imperial Guard regiments for just that very reason - player creativity.

 

You're bound only by the limits of your imagination.  Besides, it would be a boring hobby if everyone agreed on everything.

[Battybattybats]

That's why i have my own invented Knight House with House Cydonia.
By being a religious order of Knights where every Knight has basic techpriest training and the knightly traditons are manifested in a personal attachment to the Quest for Knowledge there's a nice notion of a knightly house with some sway within the Mechanicus and a different way that the independence can manifest. I'm still working on the name and emblem of the connected titan order (preferably a symbol i can easilly freehand when i eventually repaint my old Adeptus Titanicus titans, or which i can easily make from other decal sheets) but i've had a partial old warlord titan decal sheet for a loooooong time so each of my knights will have a nice collegia titanicus emblem to show they have spent time as part of the titan legion.

[CommodusXIII]

I've done something similar with my Knights, using the old BoLS logo sheets as a guide.  For example, here is one for Legio Metalica.  Each of my Knights has an ID logo on their shins .  My Knight Warlord has a variant of a seniority badge [D].  The tabbard banner [A] and kill pennant [C] are also designed similarly to that of a Titan.

 

In my army's fluff, however, I still differentiate them from true Titans.  While the Household has long since been integrated into the Titan Legio, it functions differently and serves a different purpose.  The Knights are used as skirmishers and bush-beaters, fighting in smaller spaces and against smaller targets than the larger Titans could engage.  I look it as being similar to a Stormtrooper squad working very closely with Space Marines - they may both be (somewhat) human, but they are very different beasts both on and off the battlefield.

Edited August 14, 2014 by CommodusXIII

[Kilofix]

Btw, if you haven't seen the Sanctus Reach Knight Formation - Adamantine Lance yet; its quite awesome and possibly OP.

 

3 Knights within 3" get; reroll Shields, reroll Charge and D3 HoW.

[CommodusXIII]

Btw, if you haven't seen the Sanctus Reach Knight Formation - Adamantine Lance yet; its quite awesome and possibly OP.

 

3 Knights within 3" get; reroll Shields, reroll Charge and D3 HoW.

 

The only (slightly) balancing factor to it is if you destroy one, there's a good chance that at least one of the others will be caught in the detonation.  I try to space my Knights out for that very reason.

[incinerator950]

Sounds awesome, when does Chaos get its own?

 

Oh.

[jeffersonian000]

It's to imitate a classic shield wall and Calvary charge. What would be cooler (and show the GW designers have an education) is a Caravel special rule where the Knights move 6" forward, turn the the left, shoot, face forward, move 6", turn the to the right, shoot, face forward, run. All while still 3" apart from each other. That would be fun to coordinate, look awesome on the table, be just OP enough to guarantee 3 Knights at the top table of any tourney.

 

SJ

[BassWave]

Sounds awesome, when does Chaos get its own?

 

Oh.

It's called allying one in and keeping it 12 inches away from the rest of your army. It's actually to your benefit as you don't want it near you when it comes down.

 

So yes chaos gets one. Even tyranids can get one.

[Warsmith Aznable]

 

2. What are your thoughts today about facing 3 Knight Titans with supporting Troops at the 2K point level?

Myself; previously I thought they'd be a problem. But now, not so much. Unless my list is really skewed and doesn't have any anti-armor (which is rarely the case).

 

Tredhed here runs a primary of 3 Knights (one of which is sometimes Gerontius) and I have been running primary SoB against it. I ally in a BA aerial strike force and sometimes a Shadowsword, while he usually allies tank-heavy IG and sometimes Salamanders. We're running right at 50/50 against each other in casual games, so it's not at all an over-the-top thing to do in my opinion as someone who has to fight against it.

 

My 2¢