Slips Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Iirc, its either Ap 1 or 2....could be 3....Not near my books atm to verify.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3935378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 That's still pretty brutal then Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3935383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 MIND BULLETS, son. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3935387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 It's only AP3 unfortunately :( And the S value is 10 but compared to their LD value as if it were their toughness. So 3+ to wound vs LD9 etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3935455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 It's only AP3 unfortunately And the S value is 10 but compared to their LD value as if it were their toughness. So 3+ to wound vs LD9 etc AP3 is still pretty good going if you can get the 6 shots off though. What other Legions/lists would people recommend?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3935887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mehman Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I don't want to derail this post by what I'm about to say but, if it happens, so be it. I've been on these forums for all of 2-3 weeks and I have to say that I am very gracious for all the support that everyone gives. I was beginning to doubt my own hobby for various reasons (health notwithstanding) and y'all proverbially brought me in, stood me at attention, and gave me the pep-talk every Drill Instructor invariably gives to a fledgling recruit (trust me, I know). The hobby has been one of the only things that's been keeping me going this past year. My wife would attest to this, as well. Sometimes people need some purchase in life that won't corrode away. Y'all have been the "good soil" this plant has needed and I thank all you for that. Anyway, continue on with fluffy business and getting people their correct legions. If this isn't appropriate for this, or any, forum, feel free to delete it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3935916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I was wondering if I could get some opinions on whether dark reaper or thunderhawk blue would look good as a Alpha Legion scheme. I know they can use various colours so I was thinking of using one of those two colours as the primary scheme with bright silver trimming and hydra marking and the ocassional neon green chained alpha legion symbol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3935967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGone Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 What other Legions/lists would people recommend?? World Eaters! We got axes! And cookies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3935996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I need sold a traitor legion. I am a hobby butterfly, so open to most things. Word Bearers, Death Guard, Emperor's Children and Night Lords are all collected atm in my area, so I'd be interested in something different, unless there is a really cool theme that catches my fancy. Hit me! What other Legions/lists would people recommend?? Well, what you've got left are the World Eaters, Sons of Horus, Iron Warriors, and Alpha Legion. Or the out-of-left-field traitor force from a loyalist legion that sympathized with Horus and deserted their own legion (or any other potentially awesome fluff reasoning you can come up with). Of the above main traitor legions, the AL have probably the strongest set of tabletop legion-wide rules, while the other three are considered to be a little weak. The IW, SoH and WE partially make up for it with cool unique units though, such as Tyrant Terminators, Reavers and Red Butchers (respectively). Does the rules, fluff or aesthetic of the models stand out to you for any of these? That might help a bit to narrow it down when you're considering which to pick. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3936083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I don't want to do a traitor loyalist faction, so that's out. I do like the idea of a WE jump pack formation or horde army, but that's a lot of white to paint. I'm not too fussed about the rules for the legion and their strength, as its not a competitive scene atm. I'm less keen on Petulant-robo as a primarch, but otherwise I'm equally a fan of the models and fluff for the others. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3937729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Well, what colors do you like to paint, or are comfortable with? Jump-packs and hordes can technically be done with any Legion. A Death Guard assault company would be interesting to see. I'm imagining bulky jump-packs belching billowing, black clouds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3937743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Pretty happy with anything but yellow or white, getting an even coat with no airbrush is too difficult. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3937753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Well, then what about the Death Guard assault company? Sure, they're technically white, but they're supposed to be uneven and dirty, so you don't have to even try for the even coat. I think it'd be a cool force to see, actually. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3937767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Dusk Raiders? http://i.imgur.com/BBuUqu2.png And remember, FW has alt paint schemes in their books which gives you the freedom to paint them however you want. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3937792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Warhounds! Most of the scheme is blue with a few hints of white (the pauldrons, backpack, etc) and you can do a horde or jump pack army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3937948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I don't want to do a traitor loyalist faction, so that's out. I do like the idea of a WE jump pack formation or horde army, but that's a lot of white to paint. I'm not too fussed about the rules for the legion and their strength, as its not a competitive scene atm. I'm less keen on Petulant-robo as a primarch, but otherwise I'm equally a fan of the models and fluff for the others. If you're not so keen on the white you could for try a similar style Sons of Horus Reaver assault force? Easy with a black undercoat, lots of remaining black surfaces and gold trim. Only obstacle would be working out a sea-green mix that you like, I guess. Or you could work out a more personalized scheme, but that goes for any legion really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3938103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Well, then what about the Death Guard assault company? Sure, they're technically white, but they're supposed to be uneven and dirty, so you don't have to even try for the even coat. I think it'd be a cool force to see, actually. Someone already has the Death Guard, so I'd rather avoid them. It does sound like a cool theme for a DG army, outside the box of their usual tactics. Dusk Raiders? http://i.imgur.com/BBuUqu2.png And remember, FW has alt paint schemes in their books which gives you the freedom to paint them however you want. I'll take a look into the alternative schemes, if there is one that only has a couple of bits of white then I might do it. I'm not too keen on the Dusk Raiders scheme as I'd like to run them in full traitor mode heresy era with their primarchs, and to me Dusk Raiders suggest the loyalist elements that have escaped the traitor legions at this time. It is a cool scheme though. :) Warhounds! Most of the scheme is blue with a few hints of white (the pauldrons, backpack, etc) and you can do a horde or jump pack army. Again the Warhounds make me think of the loyalist elements of the World Eaters or a pre-Angron force, which I don't really want to do. I don't want to do a traitor loyalist faction, so that's out. I do like the idea of a WE jump pack formation or horde army, but that's a lot of white to paint. I'm not too fussed about the rules for the legion and their strength, as its not a competitive scene atm. I'm less keen on Petulant-robo as a primarch, but otherwise I'm equally a fan of the models and fluff for the others. If you're not so keen on the white you could for try a similar style Sons of Horus Reaver assault force? Easy with a black undercoat, lots of remaining black surfaces and gold trim. Only obstacle would be working out a sea-green mix that you like, I guess. Or you could work out a more personalized scheme, but that goes for any legion really. I hadn't thought about using this idea with the SoH. It sounds interesting, maybe lots of jump troops and Horus and deep striking terminators in support? I might see if I can run up a list I like for this. Thank you all for the replies :D , sorry I'm being so fussy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3938406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Don't be. It's a good couple of hundred pounds to sink into a Heresy army. Be fussy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3938868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 As a devoted World Eater, I can tell you that painting an even white with no airbrush is very much possible and achievable on infantry models... Achieving that same white on vehicles with lots of flat surfaces, that is a matter entirely different. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3938984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Don't be. It's a good couple of hundred pounds to sink into a Heresy army. Be fussy! This. It's a big investment of money, time, and blood, sweat, and tears, so make certain you know which path you want to take the first step on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3939177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 The Sons of Horus idea is one of my projects to do aswell - they were originally going to be my Legion of choice until I figured out I couldn't get a nice sea green that I liked (shame I was a bit of a tit and had already ran out of bought Abaddon + Loken and the SoSh dreadnought... Then Horus... But that's for the fiancé as she can do it justice!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3939245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Space Wolves, Sons of Horus, Ultramarines, or Alpha Legion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3939938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Space Wolves, Sons of Horus, Ultramarines, or Alpha Legion? Well, I'm not looking for loyalists, so SW and UM are out. SoH seem to be in the lead for ideas so far, although I need to find a good list. Thinking Jump pack reavers with Angel's Wrath or Black reaving RoW or maybe a fully terminator force led by Horus using either Pride of the Legion or Orbital Assault. The rules for AL seem cool, but I can't find a list I like for them As a devoted World Eater, I can tell you that painting an even white with no airbrush is very much possible and achievable on infantry models... Achieving that same white on vehicles with lots of flat surfaces, that is a matter entirely different. How much time does it take? Fairly quick or is it time consuming? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3940392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I thought KBA was asking for himself? You could do black SoH if you didnt want the Sea Green. Ive been tempted to do a SoH Reaver Warband for a while. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3940426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I thought KBA was asking for himself? You could do black SoH if you didnt want the Sea Green. Ive been tempted to do a SoH Reaver Warband for a while. No that I reread it you might be right! I'm not fussed by the sea green, the only things I'm wary of are white and yellow, as they are really hard to do consistently well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295015-the-legion-for-you-community-assistance-thread/page/31/#findComment-3940428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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