Komrk Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 My primary 30k force is Raven Guard but I also want another force to either go with it or against it. I've decided that to be different from my Raven Guard, I would go with a more solid force so I've narrowed it down to four Legions. My main plan would be to make an infantry force (Foot slogging Tacticals, Terminators, and Breachers with some armor and dreadnought support) Traitors: Death Guard - Tough, implacable, masters of attrition and trench warfare. I love their depiction in Galaxy in Flames and in Betrayal. Their color scheme would be nice to go against the black of my Raven Guard. Not really feeling the scythes and I like using Legion specific units. Iron Warriors - Masters of the siege, down in the dirt soldiers who are relentless in their persecution of their enemy mixed with their precision artillery strikes. The only downside I would see would be their emphasis on artillery which I'm hesitant to use just because I'm not personally big on it, however the Legion specific units are really cool. Loyalists: Imperial Fists - Your average joe soldier, masters of defense and boarding actions. Yellow is a good stand out from the black but also painting it can be a pain. Their legion rules support an infantry army well. Templars and Phalanx Warders are both cool and fun, Sigismund *drool* Salamanders - Tough bastards, like fire and microwave guns, protect innocents. Cool models and special units, cool paint scheme, Mantle is an awesome piece of equipment, Legion specific units are fun and as before, look awesome. So what say you battle brothers, I need your help. While I would prefer to have an opposing force, I also love the loyalists. So I want either your input or convince me to join your side, either way it's all appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295176-a-dilemna-and-another-one-of-those-posts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Iron warriors or imperial fists, i'd say. Iron warriors don't have any rules that actually aid artillery as far as i know of, and they are dead Easy to paint. On the other hand, yellow does look good next to pure-black and imho it isn't that hard to paint, if you can overcome not winning the Golden demon with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295176-a-dilemna-and-another-one-of-those-posts/#findComment-3777480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Iron warriors or imperial fists, i'd say. Iron warriors don't have any rules that actually aid artillery as far as i know of, and they are dead Easy to paint. On the other hand, yellow does look good next to pure-black and imho it isn't that hard to paint, if you can overcome not winning the Golden demon with it. I know that they don't have rules to aid artillery and that the Legions are huge and could do anything within a Legion but to me I feel that I would still feel like I want to run artillery (despite not actually wanting to) but other than that they definitely seem to be the stronger of my Traitor options Imperial Fist yellow would look really nice next to the Raven Guard and honestly i'll probably have it commissioned because I'm a terrible painter anyway Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295176-a-dilemna-and-another-one-of-those-posts/#findComment-3777487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I wouldn't automatically assume that the Iron Warriors are full on artillery. It's more full on big guns in the shape of the Heavy Support choices and that block has some of the best units available to the Legions. What's not to like about 10 man squads all pounding lascannon fire across the board ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295176-a-dilemna-and-another-one-of-those-posts/#findComment-3777488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 A squadron of legion artillery won't hurt to have in your battle-line. And a thudd Gun battery would also help your objective baby-sitters or gunline. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295176-a-dilemna-and-another-one-of-those-posts/#findComment-3777493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 I wouldn't automatically assume that the Iron Warriors are full on artillery. It's more full on big guns in the shape of the Heavy Support choices and that block has some of the best units available to the Legions. What's not to like about 10 man squads all pounding lascannon fire across the board Absolutely nothing is wrong with needing something dead RIGHT NOW! And I know they're not all artillery but that's just my vision of them from Angel Exterminatus. But yeah, Heavy Support is a great slot for the legions and it would be nice to get to play with it some more compared to my Raven Guard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295176-a-dilemna-and-another-one-of-those-posts/#findComment-3777496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Add in a block of Tyrant Terminators and some breachers and you're on to a winner Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295176-a-dilemna-and-another-one-of-those-posts/#findComment-3777501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Add in a block of Tyrant Terminators and some breachers and you're on to a winner Those damn Tyrants are really hard to resist. Maybe I'll just make two small Zone Mortalis forces. One for IF and one for IW and see which one pulls me more Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295176-a-dilemna-and-another-one-of-those-posts/#findComment-3777507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I think when the models do finally make it out you'll land in the IF camp. Templars and Sigismund? That's got win all over it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295176-a-dilemna-and-another-one-of-those-posts/#findComment-3777511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 We should start seeing some of the units from Extermination now shouldn't we? As far as I'm aware all the special units from Massacre (bar Primarchs and special characters) are out now right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295176-a-dilemna-and-another-one-of-those-posts/#findComment-3777523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 I think when the models do finally make it out you'll land in the IF camp. Templars and Sigismund? That's got win all over it I think that is likely how it will go. Despite wanting to do an opposing force, the Imperial Fists are just a really nice infantry force and I'll be damned if the Templars and Phalanx Warders don't draw me along with Sigismund's rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295176-a-dilemna-and-another-one-of-those-posts/#findComment-3777526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Lucian Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Who needs Sigismund when you can have Tyrant terminators. I mean sheesh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295176-a-dilemna-and-another-one-of-those-posts/#findComment-3777598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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