The Harrowmaster Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Hi everyone, I'm looking to start up a DIY Chaos warband based on tzeentch however I want to stay away form the Thousand Sons theme. So mutated troops but still sorc Heavy. Most of my inspiration at the moment is coming from WHFB artwork of tzeentch chosen. I think they look great and want to try and represent these type of warrriors in 40k. I've come up with some fluff ideas and stuff, but I am struggling to find any sources or even pictures of CSM models of a tzeentch variety (that arent already Thousand Sons). Many thanks look forward to seeing what people can come up with! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Look up the scourged. Trouble with a Tzeentch army is that it's a spellcasting/shooty army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3778513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I've always wanted to see this kind of thing too, so I'll be watching. It depends what tickles your fancy, but you could go for something like the old Rogue Trader-era Chaos/Renegade SM. http://www.solegends.com/citcat1991a/cat1991ap107chaosrenegades-02.htm http://www.solegends.com/citcat1989mo/c1989mop0002-02.htm http://www.solegends.com/citcat1991a/cat1991ap108chaosrenegades-02.htm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3778514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Harrowmaster Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Those old school models are great. And yeah people arent really doing shooty chaos right now ey? For me i'm doing it more for a fluff and modeling project. I am enjoying using possesed troops at the moment however. Not the most competitive but its fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3778544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviar Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 You can find them pretty cheap old scchol models on eBay. Like this one: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XRogue+Trade+Chaos&_nkw=Rogue+Trade+Chaos&_sacat=0 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3778553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 It's not that they're not, but... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3778554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Mustard Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 With Tzeentch the sky is the limit in terms of creations. Don´t look for reference create yours! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3778588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachymike123 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 If you're looking at WHFB read Palace of the Plague Lord (i think thats what its called anyway) as that follows a tzeentch follower on his quest to avenge his village. Great read too. For 40k i like the oracles of change. I'd link them to the lexicanum page but i'm on my phone so can't. Tzeentch can also be a cc army but it'd be harder to work imho. I'd suggest mutated marines, especially the champions as they'd be more blessed by him. As said, tzeentch is fantastic for conversions etc as he is very much the epitome of chaos and change. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3778664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 This guy was working on a group of renegades inducted into his TS warband. Here's a really cool Tzeentch chosen. Not a whole lot of conversions here but cool color scheme for his renegades. Amazing chosen squad about halfway down this page. Hope these help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3778924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskie Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Little known fact I can paint Tzeentch. There are more, but not on Flickr apparently. I like old renegades. I keep acquiring them. I like Tzeentch's everyone has an invulnerable save on lowly tactical marines, but this is a Lord on Disc, which now must be a sorcerer in the newest rules. You can try to spot the subtle conversion. Tzeentch Lord by Muskie McKay, on Flickr Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3778996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Looks like the disc and backpack were tweaked. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3779075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Hi everyone, I'm looking to start up a DIY Chaos warband based on tzeentch however I want to stay away form the Thousand Sons theme. So mutated troops but still sorc Heavy. Most of my inspiration at the moment is coming from WHFB artwork of tzeentch chosen. I think they look great and want to try and represent these type of warrriors in 40k. I've come up with some fluff ideas and stuff, but I am struggling to find any sources or even pictures of CSM models of a tzeentch variety (that arent already Thousand Sons). Many thanks look forward to seeing what people can come up with! Spam cultists take,2 sorc and as many demon detachments as you can. Playing demon main would probably be better, you could then limit the number of cultists you have to take and maximize the number of casters and power dice. Besides that, there is no way to run a good tzeench army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3779233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskie Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Looks like the disc and backpack were tweaked. Backpack yes, disc no. Keep looking... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3779802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Harrowmaster Posted August 17, 2014 Author Share Posted August 17, 2014 It looks like a cypher/dark angels backpack. But i maybe completely out of the ball park. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3779929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Backpack is a Cypher one (one of the backpacks you can buy along with Fabius'), and it looks like the pistol from the 1kSons conversion pack...? Very nice work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3780339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 WFB Forsaken could have good parts too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3780912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Mustard Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Here are the chapters on Lexicanum The Scourged [3b] Prodigal Sons Oracles of Change [3a] Warband of Sektoth Brotherhood of Dust Sons of the Cyclops Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3781188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Warbands, we don't have Chapters. Also, most of them are TSs or deserters of the Thousand sons, so the only two that help are The Scourged and Oracles of Change. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3781212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskie Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Backpack is a Cypher one (one of the backpacks you can buy along with Fabius'), and it looks like the pistol from the 1kSons conversion pack...? Very nice work. No one ever notices the pistol and no one else seems to convert old OOP metal models but me. Converting metal seems to be a forgotten art as you have to be very careful cutting and pinning. The original model had a plasma pistol, but under the then rules of the snooty Tzeentch demon weapon or Kai Gun further back, why pay for a plasma pistol too, so off it went. No Eqyptian or Thousand Sons imagery needed. Across the millennia surely others have fallen under the sway of the Tzeentch. I'll have to photograph all my Tzeentch guys and Nurgle guys and other Chaos guys, mainly they just go unused and sit in storage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3783093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terkael Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 In a little different vein the Dornian Heresy covers what could possibly happen to the Raven Guard if they fell to Tzeentch worship. In effect they are small warbands led by sorcerers while their line warriors have the ability to transform their bodies and armor into weapons. The sorcerers help to keep this ability from running wild so their warriors don't all devolve into chaos spawn. Could work as great fluff for a chaos warband. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295238-tzeentch-csm-armys-not-thousand-sons-sources/#findComment-3785417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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