Jarl of Wulfen Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Hey guys, wanted to collect some opinions. I try to run fluff type lists that keep with the 13th company background. I recently got the stormclaw box and its terminators but am unsure what to do with them. In the old 13th list, only the hqs got TDA. Should I run the new squad as a 5 man unit, or have 5 lone wolves? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Do whatever I say. As you said the old 13th Company list got some access to TDA, so doing either is fine, especially as you can't field legit Wulfen squads any more. Plus its been over a decade since the 13th got any dedicated fluff, and seeing how the scope of armies has increased in that time, Terminator squads in a 13th Company list wouldn't make me raise an eyebrow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/#findComment-3778894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatGrinder Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 13th Company had terminator armour. Basically they use The Gate psychic power to move around within the warp, and because they cant use it on tanks, they dont have any transports. They have pretty much everything else. In the old list you could give Pack Leaders TDA, because they had access to the SW armoury. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/#findComment-3778983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Hey guys, wanted to collect some opinions. I try to run fluff type lists that keep with the 13th company background. I recently got the stormclaw box and its terminators but am unsure what to do with them. In the old 13th list, only the hqs got TDA. Should I run the new squad as a 5 man unit, or have 5 lone wolves? As others have stated. Have at it! Tons of fluff reasons these guys may have terminator armor. (killed traitor marines took cache of armor, killed renegade marines took cache of armor, killed loyalist marines who mis took them for chaos marines and took armor. Gifted some armor by a Great company as part of repaid honour debt. lost cache of arms in the EoT. ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/#findComment-3779037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 LOL 'do whatever I say' - Leif, that sounds super bossy even though your intention was pretty much the opposite. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/#findComment-3779050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Oops, didn't notice that, that sentence really needed a comma. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/#findComment-3779052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatGrinder Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Â Hey guys, wanted to collect some opinions. I try to run fluff type lists that keep with the 13th company background. I recently got the stormclaw box and its terminators but am unsure what to do with them. In the old 13th list, only the hqs got TDA. Should I run the new squad as a 5 man unit, or have 5 lone wolves? As others have stated. Have at it! Tons of fluff reasons these guys may have terminator armor. (killed traitor marines took cache of armor, killed renegade marines took cache of armor, killed loyalist marines who mis took them for chaos marines and took armor. Gifted some armor by a Great company as part of repaid honour debt. lost cache of arms in the EoT. ) Â Â They also would have had some when they chased into the warp, in fact the HH CCG artwork depicts spacewolf terminators with bearing the logo of the 13th co. The current marks of TDA are not so far removed from those used at the heresy either. Â http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120516052516/warhammer40k/images/a/af/Nordstrand-13th_co_wolfguard-web.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/#findComment-3779063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Oops, didn't notice that, that sentence really needed a comma. Ah yes, that makes more sense now. I was thinking the same thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/#findComment-3779104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 They also would have had some when they chased into the warp, in fact the HH CCG artwork depicts spacewolf terminators with bearing the logo of the 13th co. The current marks of TDA are not so far removed from those used at the heresy either. If I recall correctly from FW, the TDA used during present time was also in use during the heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/#findComment-3779148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Yes it was (which is why it's perfectly fine for chaos terminators to be wearing it). Since FW don't make any heresy-era indomitus pattern TDA, though, you're never going to see it depicted in HH art or represented in any kind of mini form, which is a shame imo. Iirc indomitus and tartaros armour were late-crusade indroductions like mkIV power armour, so cataphract was the standard form of TDA for most of the crusade -- edit: indomitus, infernus is the blood angel melta weapon, good grief, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/#findComment-3779161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Which one is Infernus? The GW kit is Indomitus (I think I've spelled that right). Although Extermination mentions the Alpha Legion using 5 different TDA patterns in their Paramar assault, so I'm hoping we may see more FW Terminator kits at some point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/#findComment-3779238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elazar The Glorified Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I think Ghost meant Indomitus. Betrayal mentions Tartarus, Cataphractii, Indomitus and Saturnine Patters in use with Cataphractii on the decline by the outbreak of the Heresy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/#findComment-3779352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 err yes indomitus is what i meant, thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/#findComment-3779380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 If you look closely at the Gorgon terminators, I think they are pretty clearly an early prototype of Indomitus pattern terminator armour? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/#findComment-3779705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 While my memory may be faulty, but doesn't Massacre say the Gorgon was the prototype of an improved Indomitus pattern, but that Ferrus didn't live long enough to work out all the kinks with it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/#findComment-3779724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Dunno... either way it's a heresy era indomitus terminator, which is nice to see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295258-13th-co-lone-wolves-and-tda/#findComment-3779900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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