LongGone Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I've asked this question in several World Eater-specific threads, but wanted to throw this question out to the forum in general... What is a cost effective way to comply with WYSIWYG and model a bolt pistol, bolter, and close combat weapon on your Marines. Obviously, as a warrior of the VIIth Legion, I'm looking to wield as many chainaxes as possible, but we'll keep this open to chainswords, combat blades, red whippy sticks, etc.... How are y'all doing it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I honestly never model pistols on Tacs but most of the bolter packs you can buy from FW have Bayonets or CCWs included Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Bolter with Chainsword attachment. Pistol in holster and ammo pouches are on his waist - to the rear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGone Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 Definitely appreciate the examples Heathens and Kilofix (good lord, that faaaaaace!) Have you had any experiences with opponents not thinking the bayonet (chained or otherwise) satisfied WYSIWYG for a CCW? Now say I wanted give my Marines chainaxes, as World Eaters are known to do. A chain bayonet would no longer suffice, yes? Or would it? I see the phobos chainaxes have hands already modeled on the haft. Keeping in mind my limited conversion skills, are there kits out there with arms sans hands to match them up with if I was driven to spend the cash to do so? If I wanted to do that with a tactical blob or two, should I resign myself to hacking the hands off tactical/despoiler arms? What kits out there have arms separated from hands? Are there other kits with chainaxes attached to a whole arm? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 To model true grit you can do things, the first, I suggest and the easiest, is to just mix the weapons. Have one guy with a bolter, another with axe and pistol, and yet another with bolter and axe. The second, and more costly way, is to attach bolters on slings to the marines. I think I might do true grit squads because it's fluffy to represent the world eaters beginning by shooting and advancing in orderly fashion but then fall to the nails and ditch their bolters for stabby time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 FW Power Weapon sets have arms with hands separate: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-and-Accessories/LEGION_MkIV_POWER_WEAPON_SET.html Also - the original True Grit: http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99810102007_PlagueMarinesNEW_01.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Chaos/CHAOS_INFANTRY_AND_ACCESSORIES/CHAIN_AXES.html In the event that you didn't see it in the other thread. Also for those that might not be aware. Only downside to this is you have to drill hands for them to be held. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Depthcharge speaks wisdom. Mix and match those squads, and just make sure your opponent understands. If you've playing against someone who is howling about you not putting a bolter, bolt pistol, and chainsword on every mini you got, walk away immediately. Things can only get worse from there. Another option are the Catachan sheathed swords. Cut the sheaths at an angle, so that it creates a pointed appearance, then shave the cut edge until it is rounded. Voila, a sheathed gladius. :) Cost effective, fit beautifully on the hip or back, and pretty simple to do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGone Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 Slipstreams, I saw your post in the other thread, but for whatever reason, searching the various forms of the word chainaxes on FW only resulted in the phobos kit for me. I figured it had just been discontinued. Now I know exactly where to find them. If I used those though, I'd probably just maglock them to thighs, as the drilling process is a little beyond my ken. Kilo, I'm familiar with the power weapon kits. But I don't know how efficient it is to pay for the entire kit, when all I want is the arms. Although I would end up with a lot of weapons for characters/sergeants... Are there any other FW kits that come with hands separate? Someone mentioned the possibility of the Legion assault or despoiler kits, but wasn't certain... Heathens, yeah I figured that would be a real dick move on the part of my opponent, but stranger things have been known to happen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 The Tigrus Bolters come with sheathed combat blades. I armed my Legionaries with bolters and put the combat blades behind their shoulders. I had a whole lot of spare boltpistols in holsters from the CSM kit which I placed on the Legionary's belts. http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN3015_zps9c7b2d0c.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGone Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 The Tigrus Bolters come with sheathed combat blades. I armed my Legionaries with bolters and put the combat blades behind their shoulders. I had a whole lot of spare boltpistols in holsters from the CSM kit which I placed on the Legionary's belts. http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN3015_zps9c7b2d0c.jpg Oh my. This...this is purrty. And a very good suggestion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJB2K3 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 To be honest, the rules say that you lose the bolter for the BP&Chainsword so I modelled mine as http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f352/AJB2K3/WE01-1.jpg How ever I use some old vertrans (as was given away on the cover OF WD once)http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f352/AJB2K3/oldbaz.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 @ajb2k3 - I believe the OP is referring the the fact that you can pay a minimal cost to give your Tac squad CCWs in addition to their Bolter and Bolt Pistol, hence True Grit. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGone Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 @ajb2k3 - I believe the OP is referring the the fact that you can pay a minimal cost to give your Tac squad CCWs in addition to their Bolter and Bolt Pistol, hence True Grit. @Russ Brother, you know me too well. Its like we've discussed this topic before... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 LongGone, I cna say for certain that the Mk. IV Despoiler kit comes with arms that have separate hands and I presume that's true for the others, plus you get the marines rather than a whole bunch of power weapons and specialist pistols you may not use so it may be a bit more cost effective than the power weapon kit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Slipstreams, I saw your post in the other thread, but for whatever reason, searching the various forms of the word chainaxes on FW only resulted in the phobos kit for me. I figured it had just been discontinued. Now I know exactly where to find them. If I used those though, I'd probably just maglock them to thighs, as the drilling process is a little beyond my ken. Kilo, I'm familiar with the power weapon kits. But I don't know how efficient it is to pay for the entire kit, when all I want is the arms. Although I would end up with a lot of weapons for characters/sergeants... Are there any other FW kits that come with hands separate? Someone mentioned the possibility of the Legion assault or despoiler kits, but wasn't certain... Heathens, yeah I figured that would be a real dick move on the part of my opponent, but stranger things have been known to happen. Cheap arms with no hands Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGone Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 LongGone, I cna say for certain that the Mk. IV Despoiler kit comes with arms that have separate hands and I presume that's true for the others, plus you get the marines rather than a whole bunch of power weapons and specialist pistols you may not use so it may be a bit more cost effective than the power weapon kit. It makes me happy to know this. I hope it is the case, especially with the Mk III kits. Thank you for that lil bit of certainty! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 For standard tacticals the IG combat knife is appropriately scaled to fit on the belt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 You can always look on ebay for Space Marine combat blades. I've seen a set of 10 go for about $2 on there. And if you're not opposed to bidding, I've seen a set of 50 with a starting bid of $0.99 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJB2K3 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 @ajb2k3 - I believe the OP is referring the the fact that you can pay a minimal cost to give your Tac squad CCWs in addition to their Bolter and Bolt Pistol, hence True Grit. Not under the tactical section on PG 30! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 @ajb2k3 - I believe the OP is referring the the fact that you can pay a minimal cost to give your Tac squad CCWs in addition to their Bolter and Bolt Pistol, hence True Grit. Not under the tactical section on PG 30! Yes it is, Im looking at it right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3779707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJB2K3 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 @ajb2k3 - I believe the OP is referring the the fact that you can pay a minimal cost to give your Tac squad CCWs in addition to their Bolter and Bolt Pistol, hence True Grit. Not under the tactical section on PG 30! Yes it is, Im looking at it right now. Thats funny, mine say's "Exchage" which means that you loose the bolt gun to gain the combat blade and/or chain sword. Edit 1: Arg, sorry, didn't see the line that says "add", need to go add loads of bolt guns to my models now! Edit 2: The World Eaters sprue's have separate "curved" combat blades (well sabres) and I have seen (and been known) to glue bolt guns onto marine backs, ust below the back pack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3780052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 True Grit didn't meant Bolter/Bolt Pistol/Chainsword, though. It was the special rule in 3rd ed that allowed Space Wolves to wield a bolter in one hand and a chainsword in the other and gain a bonus attach WITHOUT a bolt pistol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3780161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Im sure he gets that, but now that TG is the colloquial way to refer to models with rifles with accompanying side arms and blade, the problem becomes how do you reconcile the obnoxious scale of some GW chainswords, the smallness or awkward shape of the knives, and a decent pistol and rifle combination. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295276-cost-effective-ways-to-model-true-grit/#findComment-3780213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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