Valerian Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Page 31 of 5e codex, Loyal Companion rule. No longer present in 7e codex, so Fenrisian Wolves are out for all Wolf Lords planning to embark a Transport, but still work well for those on TWCs, Bikes, or just Footslogging it. V bikes are terrible with wolves as you lose both Fleet, Run and Turbo Boost. with guys on foot the wolves just lose Fleet. I didn't say it was a good idea to do it - just that if you do, you can bring your Fenrisian Wolf companions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295341-champions-of-fenris-and-space-wolves-codex-hand-in-hand/page/3/#findComment-3789125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted August 25, 2014 Author Share Posted August 25, 2014 Oh well, a Grey Hunter or Wolf Guard revenue makes better look out sir guards anyway, with a 3+ or 3++ with stormshields, may actually survive the LOS. But 8 points vs 14-18 points a model/ablative wound is what made the wolves accessory attractive in the first place. Not to mention 2 attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295341-champions-of-fenris-and-space-wolves-codex-hand-in-hand/page/3/#findComment-3789171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 It's not... 100% clear how bikes and infantry/cavalry/beasts interact. You definately lose fleet since not everyone has it, but it's not 100% clear whether or not the wolves can run while the bikes turbo-boost. You lose some of the mobiity, but it might not be a total loss. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295341-champions-of-fenris-and-space-wolves-codex-hand-in-hand/page/3/#findComment-3789412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rose Princes Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 just poured over it, here's how it goes: WOLF WITH BIKE As the Wolf has Move Through Cover, the whole unit can use it, so Bikes auto pass Dangerous Terrain with a Wolf Whole unit does not have Fleet so lost completely. The Bike can still Turboboost, but is limited to the distance that the Wolf can Run normally, 1d6", no reroll as no Fleet; so you will never get 12 inches. They removed the distance from your starting point limitation in Turbo Boost so even if you go 1" the Bikes can still Jink, but the Wolf does not get Jink. You still roll 2d6" charge range, but cannot reroll, the distance as the whole unit does not have Fleet, and you do not ignore the -2" penalty as the whole unit does not have Move Through Cover. When Falling Back, you still roll 3d6". WOLF WITH INFANTRY As the Wolf has Move Through Cover, the whole unit can use it, so Infantry auto pass Dangerous Terrain with a Wolf Unless the Infantry unit also has Fleet, Fleet is lost so no rerolling Run or Charge dice. You still roll 2d6" charge range, but cannot reroll, the distance as the whole unit does not have Fleet, and you do not ignore the -2" penalty as the whole unit does not have Move Through Cover. As the whole unit is not Beasts, you fall back only 2d6" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295341-champions-of-fenris-and-space-wolves-codex-hand-in-hand/page/3/#findComment-3789938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 Page 31 of 5e codex, Loyal Companion rule. No longer present in 7e codex, so Fenrisian Wolves are out for all Wolf Lords planning to embark a Transport, but still work well for those on TWCs, Bikes, or just Footslogging it. V bikes are terrible with wolves as you lose both Fleet, Run and Turbo Boost. with guys on foot the wolves just lose Fleet. I didn't say it was a good idea to do it - just that if you do, you can bring your Fenrisian Wolf companions. I really hope we get an FAQ getting Loyal Compaions back, otherwise the Fenrisian wolves upgrade is practically useless unless with a Thunderlord. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295341-champions-of-fenris-and-space-wolves-codex-hand-in-hand/page/3/#findComment-3791130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Page 31 of 5e codex, Loyal Companion rule. No longer present in 7e codex, so Fenrisian Wolves are out for all Wolf Lords planning to embark a Transport, but still work well for those on TWCs, Bikes, or just Footslogging it. V bikes are terrible with wolves as you lose both Fleet, Run and Turbo Boost. with guys on foot the wolves just lose Fleet. I didn't say it was a good idea to do it - just that if you do, you can bring your Fenrisian Wolf companions. I really hope we get an FAQ getting Loyal Compaions back, otherwise the Fenrisian wolves upgrade is practically useless unless with a Thunderlord. Thunderwolves and Lone Wolves were basically the only reason to use them in the first place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295341-champions-of-fenris-and-space-wolves-codex-hand-in-hand/page/3/#findComment-3791207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
viddar Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 @Wispy - and them being awesome in the first place lol. I would add that sticking a wolf lord on thunderwolf in a squad of them works pretty well too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295341-champions-of-fenris-and-space-wolves-codex-hand-in-hand/page/3/#findComment-3791561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Thunderwolves and Lone Wolves were basically the only reason to use them in the first place. True, they were never worth taking in transports in the past anyway, as they were Bulky, and took up too much room (Ragnar and his two Wolves took up 5 slots in a Drop Pod), so not at all worth the opportunity cost. However, now with Lone Wolves being able to (if you wanted) take a Fast Attack Drop Pod, it would actually work out alright if their Wolves could join them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295341-champions-of-fenris-and-space-wolves-codex-hand-in-hand/page/3/#findComment-3791569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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