mc warhammer Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 all BL need to do is slip in an epilogue at the end of each novel featuring the granpa from princess bride telling us that we look a bit scared and he'll read more next time. as for gk- having a thousand son be a part of their founding makes some sense as that legion have experience in training psychers but it also has experience in effing them up badly. the lorgar thing can work the same way that bits of magnus, sanguinnius, ferrus and the emperor pop up everywhere: lorgar converted to daemon prince but a small portion of his loyal soul was exorcised and went on to found the grey knights and a day care centre for orphans of the siege of terra. done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3785925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 And the guy in the Temple of Sicarus is in fact Rogal Dorn, who became a Daemon Prince of Khorne after dying in the First Black Crusade and has spent all the time in between tearing himself to pieces in a blind rage and regenerating in the heart of the Grand Temple. (Spoiler from the upcoming 'Long Crusade' supplement about the Black Templars. Which will also let you field a BT Librarian that can solo Abaddon) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3785931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 And the guy in the Temple of Sicarus is in fact Rogal Dorn, who became a Daemon Prince of Khorne after dying in the First Black Crusade and has spent all the time in between tearing himself to pieces in a blind rage and regenerating in the heart of the Grand Temple. (Spoiler from the upcoming 'Long Crusade' supplement about the Black Templars. Which will also let you field a BT Librarian that can solo Abaddon) Hngh. I feel another alternate heresy coming on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3785938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 What? No, this really happened in canon. See, The Ruby Princess fed on the atheism of the Black Templars, until Grimmaldus awakened his latent psyker powers on Armaggedon and realized the only way to stop his brethren from falling to Khorne was to worship the God Emperor. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3785941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YbudKjd0auI/UYNC7YZE1uI/AAAAAAAAVRc/GQvuBR4qg34/s640/Reloading.gif No kidding. Back. On. Topic. =][= Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3785950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrafficCustodes Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Thinking on the grey knights and this ship of psychic children I must say I'm intrigued, is it in the seditions gate anthology? It's in 'The Imperial Truth' event-only anthology. Hopefully an eBook release will happen as it's a really good story, maybe the best James Swallow short story I've read, and might point towards him doing a GKs founding novel (though I'm sure if that were announced there would be a lot of 'NOOOOOOOOOOOO' posts). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3786055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Thinking on the grey knights and this ship of psychic children I must say I'm intrigued, is it in the seditions gate anthology? It's in 'The Imperial Truth' event-only anthology. Hopefully an eBook release will happen as it's a really good story, maybe the best James Swallow short story I've read, and might point towards him doing a GKs founding novel (though I'm sure if that were announced there would be a lot of 'NOOOOOOOOOOOO' posts). Hot dang I own the imperial truth and read it but can't recall that story.... Need to read it tonight don't know why I can't recall it.... Unless it's poorly written and slow to build up. I like the idea of a custodes founding the grey knights, could help with teaching true names etc and loyalty to the emperor above all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3786067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 When I first started getting into the heresy I thought the Custodes were like proto grey knights. Their armour is similar, except the colour, they use similar weapons etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3786101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I think the Custodes are superior to the Grey Knights, but a similar process may have been used in their creation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3786152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Sorry double post. On the whole Omegon = Janus, I am a proscriber that ONE of the twins will defect to the Loyalists, and possibly take part in the creation of the Grey Knights. However, is this Omegon. He destroyed the Tenebrae facility, freeing the White Scars to join the war a d return to Terra. This increased the chance of a Imperial victory, allowing for the stale Imperium to come in to assistance, thus allowing a slow chaos victory. Alpharius could then be the one who flees to Terra to fight against Chaos. Its just a thought. Or possibly more Alpha Legion propaganda. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3786188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterofMankind Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I don't think Omegon is trying to make chaos win, as much as he doesn't want humanity to go extinct so he's trying to take a third option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3788100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetor of Calth Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Pinched from the 1st Expedition; 3 of the statues of the 1st 8 are described in the new GK codex. Janus, 3rd Brotherhood, Heraldry = 2 Collumns Khyron, 8th Brotherhood, Heraldry = Skull with red wings. Defo a NL then. Epimetheus, 5th Brotherhood, Heraldry = 3 winged swords Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3788438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrafficCustodes Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Food for thought there. The Epimetheus one makes sense, and the Khyron one does certainly point to being a Night Lord. Two columns, though... that's so open to interpretation, it could be anything. I assume those three are the only ones described or talked about? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3788482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetor of Calth Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Thats all the guy mentioned, apart from that only Janus is actually named in the book. The other two are just described. Cheers for clearing up the author confusion btw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3788487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Two columns? Or the Roman numeral II? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3788536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterofMankind Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/DQPQ2VH.jpg?1Here you go Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3788559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Hmmm if you really want to go for a stretch you could say it's a stylized Alpha with the three Inqusition lines through it.Like I said that'd be a stretch. Or just flat out wrong. Either one Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3788568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrafficCustodes Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I see where you're coming from with the 'alpha', I certainly see the 'I' sigil of the Inquisition in there, no problem, but I have to really want to see the 'A'. It sort of looks a bit like a portcullis to me... It could be that GW is trolling us hard because they know we will analyse this to death. MasterofMankind, any chance you could post the other two coats of arms? I'm really interested to see them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3788671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterofMankind Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 No probhttp://i.imgur.com/RE3WDmD.jpg?1 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3788683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterofMankind Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/1HoY1SR.png?1 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3788690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 That second one looks like they just put the Red Hunters chapter icon on top of a red version of the inquisition symbol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3788700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Well that gave me a nice idea for my 1st legion chapter symbol ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3788801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Hmmm if you really want to go for a stretch you could say it's a stylized Alpha with the three Inqusition lines through it.Like I said that'd be a stretch. Or just flat out wrong. Either one Maybe it's still the II numerals I mentioned earlier, but with the crossbars signifying a new allegiance to this fledgling Inquisition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3788806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 True although it's kind of odd that the bottom bar is broken instead of solid like the top bar. That's why I thought of a stylized Alpha symbol when I first saw it. Either way it's interesting trying to figure out the origin of these symbols. I just hope the skull symbol isn't just being lazy by using the Red Hunters chapter symbol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3788818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 What's most likely is the graphic designer did them up and they were the best looking ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/6/#findComment-3788834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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