MasterofMankind Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Is Varren really that boastful? Would make more sense if it were some IF or custodian. And tell me Kol, is getting one fifth of your Legion killed in a single hour considered noble amongst the NL ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 That would only make sense if they were noble to begin with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Is Varren really that boastful? Would make more sense if it were some IF or custodian. And tell me Kol, is getting one fifth of your Legion killed in a single hour considered noble amongst the NL ? Varren's a World Eater, a warrior. Warriors like to know who they kill and in turn, they like to let whoever kills them to know their name. A warrior's deeds and name will transcend death. But only if they are passed on. Varren has lost his deeds as they are hidden in shadow. It is only fitting his name be lost as well. And where did I mention something noble? I believe I used the word "ignoble", which means "not noble". Unless my public education has once again failed me. Curse you FCAT for making me learn the intricacies of grammar so I could get a stinking 4 on the writing portion just to pass! Also, I am confused as to how Sevatar has any control over the Lion ambushing the Night Lords at Sheol. Is there a short story I missed? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 So it can leave room for Garro to die which curiously Heathens wants a lot...I think we need to keep an eye on him just to be safe. It would also keep the formation of the Inquisition going forward. Please, oh please, let Garro fall fighting Khârn. *begins praying hard* Why Khârn though?Wouldn't it make symbolically more sense that he goes out fighting Typhus or Mortarion? It's Heathens. 1.)It means he's taken a shine to Garro. 2.)In suitable grimdark fashion, Heathens wants him to die. 3.)In conclusion, Heathens then wants him to die by the hands of Khârn, who(as written by A D-B )a suitably epic character to carry out the execution. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TPbZ1N4uYbo/URY10pLxN1I/AAAAAAAAJmk/l0-KKb1vBcc/s1600/lurch-smile.gif You know me well, Kol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Sev is Grand Master Khyron....I think. I mean check my sig. Does that quote not just scream Night Lord to you? ...also mainly because Khyron is sculpted on his tomb as wielding a nemesis halberd...and that chainglaive Sev always uses looks somewhat the same...plus he dies rather conveniently... I mainly just want to believe. I mean, think about the kind of Knights Sev's training would produce. He was probably the most lethal warrior in the Legion Astartes bar the Primarchs and a few other exceptional Champions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Is there a any evidence for Sevatar being a GK? I just don't see a NL being a Grey Knight... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 It be sweet if one is a traitor that comes back to fold. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrafficCustodes Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Well, at least one probably is - by the 40K definition of 'traitor' anyway. If Epimetheus is who people think he is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Jago Sevatarion. He's the first person to say "Death to the False Emperor". His hobbies include torturing Loyalists until they turn traitor. Fans think he's a viable candidate to help found the Grey Knights. Ooooooooooooookay. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Jago Sevatarion. He's the first person to say "Death to the False Emperor". His hobbies include torturing Loyalists until they turn traitor. Fans think he's a viable candidate to help found the Grey Knights. Ooooooooooooookay. Yeah that's exactly why I have trouble believing that too... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Well, at least it would be entertaining to see him murder other grandmasters and all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Is there a any evidence for Sevatar being a GK? I just don't see a NL being a Grey Knight... There is a hint that Khyron is a Night Lord. Read the whole thread for further details. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 A Night Lord as a founder? Sure, I can buy that. Sevatar as a founder? I hope not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostmourne Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I hope not too. He kicks too much ass. He is a bit...maverick to say the least ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 There is a list in the purge, with a whole 1 loyalist Night Lord in it. Doubtful he will be a grey knight as Garro's chap's aren't destined for that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Much like my comment about Garro and Khârn, I hope Sev and Sigismund have an epic and brutal fight on Terra. Right after Sigismund cuts down Malcharion..... ;P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostmourne Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Whichever novel ends up depicting Sigismund on the Wall defending the Gates is going to siiick. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 There is a list in the purge, with a whole 1 loyalist Night Lord in it. Doubtful he will be a grey knight as Garro's chap's aren't destined for thatNo there isn't. There is a list in the Purge showing that the VIII Legion had a representative in the Crusader Host. And so did the Thousand Sons. And I believe it is my civic duty to remind the forum community that the Thousand Son in question received a vision from Magnus explaining the Heresy at large and containing orders to bring a specific astropath to Horus, orders which the individual attempted to follow until the time of his death. So being in the Crusader Host does not guarantee loyalty to the Imperium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3789885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbero666 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 About Sevatar not turning loyalist because he's a psycho and like to torture and flay loyalists... You heard about General Butt Naked? He was a cannibal who killed children and ate their hearts and drank their blood (only one of the examples) during Liberian Civil War...he's a "pacifist" christian preacher now...And that's real life... But either way, I don't think Sevatar could be the founder of the GK's, not one of the founders. I think that A-D-B denied it already. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3790025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Does nobody read the classics any more? It looks like a gateway to me. Because Janus. Edit: I didn't realise there was another page following the part I was replying to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3790036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Another thing I thought up while bored at work doing repetitive Restaurant tasks : The Alpha Legion are known for their Secrecy. Omegon is the leader of the Effrit(sp?) Stealth Squad. A Stealth Squad in a Legion that revolves around Stealth, Secrecy and Manipulation. Grey Knights are notorious (to use omniscient readers anyways) about their Secrecy and Leaving no witnesses. Their First Grandmaster was Janus. Omegon is a Stealth/Secrecy Leader for an elite subsection / formation in a Legion that's renowned for it. I don't know, maybe I'm just grasping at straws since I slept for a whopping 3h30 mins last night BUT HEY IT MAKES SENSE IN MY HEADBRAINBOX! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3790087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Aye, it could have been his influence that led to the structure of the Grey Knights and Inquisition that we know today. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3790097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 About Sevatar not turning loyalist because he's a psycho and like to torture and flay loyalists... You heard about General Butt Naked? He was a cannibal who killed children and ate their hearts and drank their blood (only one of the examples) during Liberian Civil War...he's a "pacific" christian preacher now...And that's real life... But either way, I don't think Sevatar could be the founder of the GK's, not one of the founders. I think that A-D-B denied it already. . . . do you mean pacifist? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3790098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Maybe sevetar had a mind wipe. The Inquisition is notorious for doing that to people(even marines). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3790107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Maybe sevetar had a mind wipe. The Inquisition is notorious for doing that to people(even marines). Yes. Clearly, if you want a founder of an elite warrior brotherhood to fight daemons, what you need to do is capture a man who talks to birds, eats people's eyeballs, and wants to horrifically murder you and everyone you know, and wipe his memory. What do you people think Malcador was smoking during the Heresy, and where can I get some? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295352-grey-knights-origins/page/8/#findComment-3790186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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