Morollan Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I think he will only get one of those, probably the axe at Init which out of the two it would be my preference. Depends if he becomes a mighty super-wuper heroic Lord of War (or not) The axe at Init would be nice. Having a 250 point T4 model with no Eternal Warrior striking last is completely absurd. How on earth did he become the oldest living marine when he dies in absolutely any fight that involves a power fist (or equivalent)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3786068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 His mind is tactically sound enough to avoid then and he rolled with a beat squad before it was cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3786127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZONKEY Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 I believe Dantes axe should like Logan grimnars with two attack profiles ap3 at iniative or ap2 versus anything else Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3786393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I just think power weapon rules in general are stupid. Make the debuffs mirror the buffs instead and you'll get more depth in what to take. Axe - plus 1 strength, -1 initiative fist - 2* strength, 1/2 initiative and so on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3786467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remtek Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Yes or no question 2 pages long, why i love B&C :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3786620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 But as the oldest living Space Marine, shouldn't he be an Eternal Warrior rules wise at least? They could always give the axe two profiles - similar to Logan. He is the oldest because he avoids being hit, not because he can take a punch to the face like Calgar. Eternal warrior for the Sanguinor, I6 MC axe with +1S for Dante. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3788624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sans Mercy Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Didn't want to be rude and start a new thread for this whinefest, but looking at the Chaos Daemon Codex I noticed Skarbrand cost the same as Dante. If they ever soloed one another Dante would lose like dropping a puppy into a wood chipper.I sure hope they fix this nonsense with the new dex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3798893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constanzo Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 like dropping a puppy into a wood chipper. That's one vivid analogy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3798941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Didn't want to be rude and start a new thread for this whinefest, but looking at the Chaos Daemon Codex I noticed Skarbrand cost the same as Dante. If they ever soloed one another Dante would lose like dropping a puppy into a wood chipper. I sure hope they fix this nonsense with the new dex. Gotta look at the big picture man! Dante also lets you take one of the worst units in the book as troops! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3798944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sans Mercy Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Didn't want to be rude and start a new thread for this whinefest, but looking at the Chaos Daemon Codex I noticed Skarbrand cost the same as Dante. If they ever soloed one another Dante would lose like dropping a puppy into a wood chipper. I sure hope they fix this nonsense with the new dex. Gotta look at the big picture man! Dante also lets you take one of the worst units in the book as troops! Ha oh right! We can also impeccably Deep Strike them right onto his axe, so we don't waste everyone's time ;p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3798947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 But with the awesomest models in the whole Citadel range. I'm thinking GW's got to improve them with the 7th ed codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3798951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sans Mercy Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Its been said here a 1000 times; a re-costing would be nice,10-15 %, and fix that rotten unwieldy curse they put on half of our HQ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3798959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I really hope they don't do much more than that. I really love our codex the way it is but for the points costs which no longer jive with the rest of the game/armies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3798989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Force Organization changing characters are no longer en vogue but new detachments are. So probably Dante like Logan will no longer make an Elites choice a troops choice (not sure what happened to Draigo, Belial is 6th Ed and Deathwing as been around very long). Off topic, does Dante have a first name (besides Commander )? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3799029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remtek Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Force Organization changing characters are no longer en vogue but new detachments are. So probably Dante like Logan will no longer make an Elites choice a troops choice (not sure what happened to Draigo, Belial is 6th Ed and Deathwing as been around very long). Off topic, does Dante have a first name (besides Commander )? Its Bob Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3799035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Marshal Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Cervan Dante that took some reading to find &n Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3802455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Cervan Dante that took some reading to find &n Where did you find it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3802502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Marshal Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/dante under a son of Sanguinius paragraph 3 "Coming together in communion, the last surviving sanguinary Priests and Chaplains elected the last-living Captain, Cervan Dante, as their next Chapter Master." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3803050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orblivion Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/dante under a son of Sanguinius paragraph 3 "Coming together in communion, the last surviving sanguinary Priests and Chaplains elected the last-living Captain, Cervan Dante, as their next Chapter Master." Never use the wiki, it is terrible. The quote they use here is from Dante's Warlord dataslate, but in the actual quote the name Cervan Dante does not appear. "The last surviving Sanguinary Priests and Chaplains came together in communion, electing the last-living Captain as the next Chapter Master." is the actual quote. The name Cervan started circulating years ago, but I have never once seen a source mentioned for it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3803293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Marshal Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 That's not what Dantes Facebook says lol but dang turns out someone was just trolling wiki Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3803367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Think it was from the fandex a couple of years ago that got everybody excited. Later renamed The Troll 'Dex ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3803376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Dante should cost 180 points. Lose the silly mask rules, give him fear instead. Keep the deepstrike buff and hit and run. Make his axe str5, mastercrafted, ap2. Don't give him eternal warrior or make him a lord of war. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3803468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Dante should cost 180 points. Lose the silly mask rules, give him fear instead. Keep the deepstrike buff and hit and run. Make his axe str5, mastercrafted, ap2. Don't give him eternal warrior or make him a lord of war. Fear is the most useless USR in the game.... and he already has it from the mask. So you want to keep the axe exactly the same? (or are you suggesting a set S5 without unwieldy?) For 180 pts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3803470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Make it Initiative 6 ap2 without unwieldy. Make the mask lower leadership in combat by d3 or something each turn in that case. Not a lot to ask, look at characters like Abaddon and now Draigo who has initiative 5 ap2, force! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3803520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yeah, I actually meant the other way around. It was way too expensive :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295391-is-dantes-axe-unwieldy/page/2/#findComment-3803528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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