Adorondak Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 So I don't know if it's the new layout in the codex, or the wolves completly ignoring the codex astartes, but I'm confused by a few things, I was hoping some of the Long Fangs here could sort me out. First thing, The way I'm reading this, it looks like the only models in terminator armor that can have a storm shield and a CCW other then a thunder hammer or wolf claw are the Wolf Lord and the Wolf Guard Battle leader. Have I got that right? Second, is the minimum size of a unit long fangs 2 miniatures? A Long Fang and a Long Fang Ancient? And that would make the maximum unit size 6 miniatures? Which would mean that they could take 5 heavy weapons right? And would you be able to upgrade the Ancient to the Wolf Guard Pack Leader, or would it have to be a normal long fang, thus removing one of your possible heavy weapons? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295400-new-to-wolves-need-something-cleared-up/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykryl Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 You have it right, only Wolf Lords and Battle Leaders can mix chainfist or frost weapons with storm shields. Our elite slot terminators don't get free run of the armory any more. They still have more options than other chapter's TDC get. A Long Fang pack is minimum 1 Ancient and 1 Long Fang. May have 1-5 Long Fangs with any of listed options. The Ancient may be upgraded to a Wolf Guard Battle Leader in either power armor or TDA. So you get one squad leader as either an Ancient or Wolf Guard with 1-5 Long Fang with the following options: ccw/bp, heavy bolter, plasma cannon, multimelta, lascannon, missile launcher. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295400-new-to-wolves-need-something-cleared-up/#findComment-3781658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adorondak Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 Great, Thanks for the swift answers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295400-new-to-wolves-need-something-cleared-up/#findComment-3781669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tancred Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Actually it says one model can be upgraded to a wolf guard, it doesn't say it has to be the ancient. So if you really want you could have 4 long fangs, an Ancient and a wolf guard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295400-new-to-wolves-need-something-cleared-up/#findComment-3781729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I thought it said one Long Fang can be upgraded (book is at home). If I'm remembering correctly, then it cannot be the Ancient, and has to come from one of the other members of the pack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295400-new-to-wolves-need-something-cleared-up/#findComment-3781760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z00Z Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 No such restriction "May upgrade one model to a Wolf Guard Pack Leader" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295400-new-to-wolves-need-something-cleared-up/#findComment-3781780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Okay, thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295400-new-to-wolves-need-something-cleared-up/#findComment-3781788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Wolf Guard in Power Armour can take a Storm Shield / Frost Axe combo as an option. Pricey at 53 points, but not bad if you want a hard to kill CC unit leading the charge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295400-new-to-wolves-need-something-cleared-up/#findComment-3781800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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